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Re: POI - Restaurants very very limited [ghstudio] by towerman
Mar 21, 2008 (12:29 pm)
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Replying to: ghstudio (Mar 15, 2008 6:35 pm)

While you might just be in an area with few items in the restaurant database, it really sounds like your problem is related to the car moving. The NAV system is substantially disabled when the car is moving as a safty feature - the fact that you have a front seat and might have a passenger is inconseqential - your only options to have it display all options/screens is to stop the car. You will not be alone as you mutter, ridiculous! One other option that might help is trying to use the voice command set to get what you want, but that takes some practice and has other drawbacks.
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Re: POI - Restaurants very very limited [towerman] by ghstudio
Mar 22, 2008 (3:57 pm)
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Replying to: towerman (Mar 21, 2008 12:29 pm)

My M35 lease is up in 3 months. While I like the car, the navigation system is such that I will not buy another infiniti. Today we were in route to one location but decided to stop at the airport. I had to stop to program the navigation to find the airport. I consider stopping on the side of an interstate as much more dangerous than my saying....destination airport...or destinations other...but neither option is allowed. Obviously there are some complete jerks in Infiniti's development or legal department. One lost sale won't matter to them...but it's my way to indicate one person's displeasure...
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Re: 2008 M35 Nav System Frustration [m35macman] by davidv935
Mar 29, 2008 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: m35macman (Jan 04, 2008 12:02 pm)

I just wrote Nissan North America a very pointed letter about this because I didn't expect this at all. They have so much functionality disabled while the car is in motion that the Bluetooth, MusicBox, and Nav are not worth the price paid. I have a pocket Garmin Nuvi 350 that I take everywhere I go on business to use in the rental cars. Garmin has the warning screen at startup, but does not disable anything, so why do the automakers think they must. Anything and everything disabled should be accessible using voice commands.
 
The phonebook holds 40 numbers, but you can only see and select 12 while driving. The musicbox holds over 9GB of music files - over 100 albums or CDs, but you have to stop the car to search and select a different album. Ironically, it will allow you to manually scroll through 2000+ songs which will take your eyes off the road for a lot longer than scanning 100 albums. On the nav, there are 10 categories of POIs, but you only get 5 while driving and you can't search for a restaurant while driving through a town. All in the name of our safety.
 
Safe attentive driving is my responsibility. All the bells and whistles work great in my driveway, but that's not where I want to use them.
 
I encourage everyone to put pen to paper.
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Re: 2008 M35 Nav System Frustration [davidv935] by dheller
Mar 29, 2008 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: davidv935 (Mar 29, 2008 8:33 am)

I fully agree with your sentiments about this stupidity on the part of Nissan. The next time I buy a $50,000 car, I will make sure all the functions work when I want them to work, not when Nissan's layers decide to allow me the privelage. Who in the world do they think they are to allow you to buy something, then cripple it from usage.
 
Do you have the address to write, I will certainly join in. Alas, I think our words will be unheaded as the layers are grabbing this whole country by the throat and stifling any of our rights in their name. Where will it ever end - our tort system needs major overhaul
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Re: 2008 M35 Nav System Frustration [dheller] by davidv935
Mar 29, 2008 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: dheller (Mar 29, 2008 9:09 am)

My email address is davidv935yahoo.com. If you send a note there, I'll forward you the letter I wrote to Nissan. Feel free to use anything that fits your particular circumstance. Checking some of the other forums, Nissan isn't the only one, but that doesn't excuse Nissan.
 
Cheers
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I have to wonder ... by tsol
Mar 29, 2008 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: davidv935 (Mar 29, 2008 10:30 am)

what, if any, federal regs are the cause of all this? This is my first in-car nav and I never really compared the nav cripple-factor among cars I was considering. I know that the last Benz I was riding in the nav looked like something out of Windows 3.0 ... ugh!
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Re: I have to wonder ... [tsol] by jjs4
Apr 06, 2008 (10:18 am)
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Replying to: tsol (Mar 29, 2008 11:44 am)

No regs! Acura has unlocked navigation. Nissan Lexus and most others listen to their lawyers over their customers.
 
i was hoping the voice commands would have given us on option, but Nissan has scaled back the command set there as well.
 
Lacking a straight answer form Nissan ( and I HAVE tried to get one!), I suspect there were a few dealers with customers who had problems with usability. Ugh!
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Help!!!!x Navigation system input from dealer.. by cafc
May 01, 2008 (12:01 pm)
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In February 2008 I bought a new M35x. I have had it in the shop three times for problems with the Navigation system. On several occasions it has lost fix, provides false location information and generally has very slow performance. The dealer informed me that this is a typical problem with the 2008 M series and there is basically no fix in place from either Infinity or the GPS manufacturer. I find it hard to believe that this is a problem on every M series car in 2008, and that Infinity is not doing everything in it's power to fix it. Especially since it is on their top of the line model. I suggested to the dealer that they replace the GPS antenna since I can't imagine that the 8 Gb hard drive would have any impact on GPS location determination. Can anyone help with any additional recommendations or rights I may have relative to handing the car back to the dealer. In my case the navigation system is the the most important "and used" subsystem in the car. Without it, the car is almost useless to me.
 
One other point if interest, The infinity service manager who advised me that this is a problem with all 2008 M-series never saw this problem before. In addition, the service tech. who worked on the car never saw this before, as a matter of fact, neither did the four other personnel who looked at the car the previous two times, nor did any of the sales personnel who expounded upon the great technology package offered in the 2008. I feel as if I am getting the run around here, if ever 2008 M series cars would have this problem, then I would think I would have seen this issue posted in several of the consumer guides that we used to research and compare this vehicle.
 
Someone please help!!!
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Re: Help!!!!x Navigation system input from dealer.. [cafc] by james27
May 01, 2008 (3:35 pm)
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Replying to: cafc (May 01, 2008 12:01 pm)

I don't have the nav package. This info is generic. The remote antenna for a gps system relies on power coming through the coaxial lead connecting it to the receiver. It uses this power to amplify the very weak signals from the satellites (until they get the new ones up in a few more years) that are only in the order of a 40W transmitter, about 14000 miles up in the sky. If the receiver can't get a signal from the antenna, it can't do much. If the antenna isn't getting power, it will not produce an output. There are a bunch of things that can be displayed in the diagnostic menus, and since I don't have it, I don't know about the normal ones...If you can get to the status of the antenna on either of those, I'd access that and monitor it while driving around when you notice it happening. If the antenna is coming and going, you should see it. I'd have to look this up to be sure, but if I remember correctly, with the radio off and the car running, hold the settings button and turn the volume knob 20-clicks or so and this accesses the diagnostics menu. There's all sorts of things there - just don't change anything you don't know what you're doing!
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Re: Navigation [j21m] by dheller
May 02, 2008 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: j21m (Oct 06, 2007 1:40 am)

THere is a Nav recall on the 07 model M series. Mine is being installed as we speak. They had to order it, but hopefully, this update will fix the lockups. There also is TSB07038 which is supposed to fix bluetooth with a Treo dropping calles, and echo problem.

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