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Nissan Xterra, Toyota FJ Cruiser, Car Buying, SUV
#22 of 41 Re: Toyota is losing goodwill with the FJ Cruiser pricing games. [cloned_2_death]
Jul 08, 2006 (11:11 am)
Dealers that say they have no control over the product are not being honest with you. With Toyota Canada (the US should be the same) the dealership orders whichever packages they think will sell. Also, in most of Canada we have fair pricing which means we don't sell above or below MSRP
Jul 08, 2006 (11:38 am)
Nissan's reliability is nowhere near Toyota. They are 8th among manufacturers in this years consumer reports predicted reliability. In my experience the Japanese built Nissan's are good (VIN starts with a J) and the North American ones are bad-especially the Mexican ones (VIN starts with a 3). That being said I am competely biased as I am a longtime Toyota owner and a Toyota salesman
#24 of 41 Re: Toyota is losing goodwill with the FJ Cruiser pricing games. [toyotasellingg]
Jul 08, 2006 (6:06 pm)
>>> Dealers that say they have no control over the product
>>> are not being honest with you. With Toyota Canada (the
>>> US should be the same) the dealership orders whichever
>>> packages they think will sell. Also, in most of Canada
>>> we have fair pricing which means we don't sell above
>>> or below MSRP
Things are not the same in Canada (just look at how difficult it is to get info on invoice prices there, etc). I'd be interested in hearing from someone who knows FOR SURE whether or not dealers are truly unable to order base FJ Cruisers in the US, or that they're making this up in an effort to sell as many option-stuffed vehicles as possible to those anxious to own the vehicle.
#25 of 41 Re: Toyota is losing goodwill with the FJ Cruiser pricing games. [cloned_2_death]
Jul 09, 2006 (3:19 pm)
I don't know for sure whether or not the individual dealerships are able to order the different models. At one dealership in Northern California there was a base 4X2 Dodger Blue with the Convenience Package (power windows). The dealership had three others, one of which they had lifted 3" and put high profile crome wheels. They then took the alloy wheels from that car and marked up the base model, because it had the alloys. The whole experience there was horrible, because they spent an hour trying to sell me a fully loaded one even aftger I told them over and over it was out of my price range, when i was finally ready to leave the miraculously found the one I was looking for, saying that they didn't know they had it and that it came in the night before. Somehow it was already on display at the opposite end of the lot.....I had pretty much already decided to buy an Xterra, this made my decision cake.
#26 of 41 FJ vs xTerra
Jul 27, 2006 (7:16 am)
I looked at xTerra too, but I barely fit into one of those things. The cab on the FJ is WAY roomier. Also the tilt on the wheel in the xT just barely moves the wheel up so you have to jam your leg underneath it and it put a black smudge on the leg of pants!!
I should mention that I am 6'6" tall so lots of vehicles dont fit me, but the FJ is just fine...I can even where a hat while driving!!! Now that is novel, for me anyway...
#27 of 41 Re: FJ vs xTerra [gypsyjon]
Aug 13, 2006 (8:20 pm)
Are you sure you put the seat back all the way? I don't really see how that is possible. The front seat dimensions are nearly identical between the two cars, actually if you look at the numbers, with the exception of headroom (which has 1" less than the FJ), the Xterra is larger in all other catergories, including leg room. I would suggest checking it out again.
#28 of 41 Re: FJ vs xTerra [aazevedo]
Aug 14, 2006 (7:04 am)
I don't know about the measured dimensions, but that acutal useable sitting down space is WAY smaller in the X-Terra. Not to mention the swing on the tilt wheel sucks. It barely moves up at all.
The salesman was right there and had me get out while he put the seats to maximum adjustment and at 6'6" I flat do not fit into one of those things.
#29 of 41 Re: good forum [cloned_2_death]
Sep 15, 2006 (9:26 am)
Has anybody seen the recalls that Toyota has issued lately? I would suggest that people check their perceptions of Toyotas quality and look at the reality of the situation. 3 million vehicles recalled in 2006 does not scream quality to me.
#30 of 41 Re: FJ vs. Xterra [aazevedo]
Sep 18, 2006 (4:26 pm)
Of course for any car you would like to buy below the MSRP. However, when comparing vehicles, how much you pay above or below MSRP really has no bearing. You need to compare the quality vs. the total price. My wife tells me all the time how much money she has saved me by buying things on sale at high priced stores. Jewelry and Furniture stores also play the game of selling things for 50%/75% under retail. Just because you can buy a car under MSRP does not make it a great deal. That being said, any smart buyer who has patience and tenacity can wait the dealers out until a downturn/overstock event takes place where it is a buyers market. Just my 2 cents.
#31 of 41 Re: FJ vs. Xterra [idahooutdoors]
Sep 18, 2006 (5:09 pm)
Y'all are not looking hard enough. I wanted a loaded FJ this spring and I could not wait since I needed a new truck NOW, due to the fact that my kid blew the engine in her Jeep and she was getting my 10 yr old Blazer.
I live in Atlanta so I looked all over there with no luck. All those dealers wanted MSRP plus up to $2500 bucks. Not happening.
So I went on the Toyota website and started sending emails to dealers right on up I-75 with the specs on what I wanted and how much I would pay. They all responded and some were close but I am a tight ass, so I was holding out. Finally, I sent the message to a dealer in Toledo, OH and in about 5 minutes I got a message back asking when I wanted to pick it up.
It takes effort, but you dont have to pay the full load. I used a Skymiles one way ticket to Toledo, the guy picked me up at the airport, bought me breakfast, I paid him and was home in Atlanta by midnight.
So, try doing your home work and you may be pleasantly surprised. Who knows? It is worth a shot and it worked for me.