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#21 of 40 Re: good forum [detour] by cloned_2_death Jul 06, 2006 (12:36 pm)
Replying to: detour (Jul 04, 2006 8:04 am) >>> I'm glad I found this discussion. I've been looking >>> mainly at the FJ versus the RAV4, but now I'm starting >>> to consider the Xterra, as well. I'm pleased to see >>> the good reviews (from C&D, etc.) and other things >>> that people have posted. My big hesitation with the >>> Xterra over the FJ is that while Toyota's reputation >>> for reliability is well-established, I'm not as sure >>> about Nissan. Perhaps I'm biased because I remember my >>> sister bought an old used Datsun station wagon in the >>> early 80s and that thing was a rolling rust-bucket. >>> Does Nissan's reliability rival Toyota's these days? >>> What are people's experiences in that regard.   The FJ Cruiser and RAV4 compete in different segments - I'm surprised you were comparing the two. The RAV4 is a modern station wagon for people who don't want to admit they need a station wagon. With the optional V6 the RAV4 changes personality, turning into a poor man's Porsche Cayenne (at 1/3 the price!). The FJ Cruiser is a nice (but needlessly flawed) little vehicle that works equally well on or off road and is probably the easiest-to-live-with hardcore offroad-capable SUV on the market today.   Toyota and Honda have the highest quality vehicles - Nissan is still a level below in terms of reliability + manufacturing quality. Replies to this message: jipster (Sep 15, 2006 8:26 am)
#22 of 40 Re: Toyota is losing goodwill with the FJ Cruiser pricing games. [cloned_2_death] by toyotasellingg Jul 08, 2006 (10:11 am)
Replying to: cloned_2_death (Jun 26, 2006 12:45 pm) Dealers that say they have no control over the product are not being honest with you. With Toyota Canada (the US should be the same) the dealership orders whichever packages they think will sell. Also, in most of Canada we have fair pricing which means we don't sell above or below MSRP Replies to this message: cloned_2_death (Jul 08, 2006 5:06 pm) aazevedo (Jul 09, 2006 2:19 pm)
#23 of 40 Re: good forum [detour] by toyotasellingg Jul 08, 2006 (10:38 am)
Replying to: detour (Jul 04, 2006 8:04 am) Nissan's reliability is nowhere near Toyota. They are 8th among manufacturers in this years consumer reports predicted reliability. In my experience the Japanese built Nissan's are good (VIN starts with a J) and the North American ones are bad-especially the Mexican ones (VIN starts with a 3). That being said I am competely biased as I am a longtime Toyota owner and a Toyota salesman
#24 of 40 Re: Toyota is losing goodwill with the FJ Cruiser pricing games. [toyotasellingg] by cloned_2_death Jul 08, 2006 (5:06 pm)
Replying to: toyotasellingg (Jul 08, 2006 10:11 am) >>> Dealers that say they have no control over the product >>> are not being honest with you. With Toyota Canada (the >>> US should be the same) the dealership orders whichever >>> packages they think will sell. Also, in most of Canada >>> we have fair pricing which means we don't sell above >>> or below MSRP   Things are not the same in Canada (just look at how difficult it is to get info on invoice prices there, etc). I'd be interested in hearing from someone who knows FOR SURE whether or not dealers are truly unable to order base FJ Cruisers in the US, or that they're making this up in an effort to sell as many option-stuffed vehicles as possible to those anxious to own the vehicle. Replies to this message: aazevedo (Jul 09, 2006 2:19 pm)
#25 of 40 Re: Toyota is losing goodwill with the FJ Cruiser pricing games. [cloned_2_death] by aazevedo Jul 09, 2006 (2:19 pm)
Replying to: cloned_2_death (Jul 08, 2006 5:06 pm) I don't know for sure whether or not the individual dealerships are able to order the different models. At one dealership in Northern California there was a base 4X2 Dodger Blue with the Convenience Package (power windows). The dealership had three others, one of which they had lifted 3" and put high profile crome wheels. They then took the alloy wheels from that car and marked up the base model, because it had the alloys. The whole experience there was horrible, because they spent an hour trying to sell me a fully loaded one even aftger I told them over and over it was out of my price range, when i was finally ready to leave the miraculously found the one I was looking for, saying that they didn't know they had it and that it came in the night before. Somehow it was already on display at the opposite end of the lot.....I had pretty much already decided to buy an Xterra, this made my decision cake.
#26 of 40 FJ vs xTerra by gypsyjon Jul 27, 2006 (6:16 am)
I looked at xTerra too, but I barely fit into one of those things. The cab on the FJ is WAY roomier. Also the tilt on the wheel in the xT just barely moves the wheel up so you have to jam your leg underneath it and it put a black smudge on the leg of pants!!   I should mention that I am 6'6" tall so lots of vehicles dont fit me, but the FJ is just fine...I can even where a hat while driving!!! Now that is novel, for me anyway...   GypsyJon Replies to this message: aazevedo (Aug 13, 2006 7:20 pm) gypsyjon (Aug 14, 2006 6:04 am)
#27 of 40 Re: FJ vs xTerra [gypsyjon] by aazevedo Aug 13, 2006 (7:20 pm)
Replying to: gypsyjon (Jul 27, 2006 6:16 am) Are you sure you put the seat back all the way? I don't really see how that is possible. The front seat dimensions are nearly identical between the two cars, actually if you look at the numbers, with the exception of headroom (which has 1" less than the FJ), the Xterra is larger in all other catergories, including leg room. I would suggest checking it out again. Replies to this message: gypsyjon (Aug 14, 2006 6:04 am)
#28 of 40 Re: FJ vs xTerra [aazevedo] by gypsyjon Aug 14, 2006 (6:04 am)
Replying to: aazevedo (Aug 13, 2006 7:20 pm) I don't know about the measured dimensions, but that acutal useable sitting down space is WAY smaller in the X-Terra. Not to mention the swing on the tilt wheel sucks. It barely moves up at all.   The salesman was right there and had me get out while he put the seats to maximum adjustment and at 6'6" I flat do not fit into one of those things.
#29 of 40 Re: good forum [cloned_2_death] by jipster Sep 15, 2006 (8:26 am)
Replying to: cloned_2_death (Jul 06, 2006 12:36 pm) Has anybody seen the recalls that Toyota has issued lately? I would suggest that people check their perceptions of Toyotas quality and look at the reality of the situation. 3 million vehicles recalled in 2006 does not scream quality to me.
#30 of 40 Re: FJ vs. Xterra [aazevedo] by idahooutdoors Sep 18, 2006 (3:26 pm)
Replying to: aazevedo (Jun 29, 2006 6:28 pm) Of course for any car you would like to buy below the MSRP. However, when comparing vehicles, how much you pay above or below MSRP really has no bearing. You need to compare the quality vs. the total price. My wife tells me all the time how much money she has saved me by buying things on sale at high priced stores. Jewelry and Furniture stores also play the game of selling things for 50%/75% under retail. Just because you can buy a car under MSRP does not make it a great deal. That being said, any smart buyer who has patience and tenacity can wait the dealers out until a downturn/overstock event takes place where it is a buyers market. Just my 2 cents. Replies to this message: gypsyjon (Sep 18, 2006 4:09 pm)

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