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Nissan Xterra, Toyota FJ Cruiser, Car Buying, SUV
#19 of 41 Re: FJ vs. Xterra [aazevedo]
Jul 03, 2006 (8:57 am)
I also drove the Xterra and FJ on the same day and went with the Xterra for the same reasons. I was hoping for more from Toyota on this vehicle. As the previous owner of a 1988 4Runner I was excited to see what the FJ had to offer. The old 4Runner was a beast but the FJ just comes up as soft compared to it. People talk about the "presence" of the FJ, the roof of the 88 4Runner came off and it had a rollbar in the back, that turned heads on the road.
The FJ uses better materials on the interior and might be slightly better than the Xterra off-road with 545mm of articulation on the rear wheels the Xterra takes it everywhere else. I done like the FJ's cartoonish looks, the rear seats dont fold all the way back, only has 2 doors, dungeon like visibility, and it felt softer on turns and on the hwy. I picked up an off-road 4WD 6-speed manual black Xterra on the 4th of July weekend and love it. I got mine for $3800 below MSRP including the $1500 in rebates, Toyota was way over MSRP on the FJ making the decision easy. The Rockford Fosgate stereo was definetely worth the extra few bucks.
Someone also pointed to the C&D article on the rock hopper SUV competition and the Xterra beat out the Jeep, FJ, and H3. Check out the link below, it is a good read.
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/10776/comparison-test-review-2006-hummer- - -h3-vs-2006-jeep-grand-cherokee-laredo-4wd-vs-2006-nissan-xterra-off-road-4wd-vs- - -2007-toyota-fj-cruiser-4wd.html
#20 of 41 good forum
Jul 04, 2006 (8:04 am)
I'm glad I found this discussion. I've been looking mainly at the FJ versus the RAV4, but now I'm starting to consider the Xterra, as well. I'm pleased to see the good reviews (from C&D, etc.) and other things that people have posted. My big hesitation with the Xterra over the FJ is that while Toyota's reputation for reliability is well-established, I'm not as sure about Nissan. Perhaps I'm biased because I remember my sister bought an old used Datsun station wagon in the early 80s and that thing was a rolling rust-bucket. Does Nissan's reliability rival Toyota's these days? What are people's experiences in that regard.
Jul 06, 2006 (12:36 pm)
>>> I'm glad I found this discussion. I've been looking
>>> mainly at the FJ versus the RAV4, but now I'm starting
>>> to consider the Xterra, as well. I'm pleased to see
>>> the good reviews (from C&D, etc.) and other things
>>> that people have posted. My big hesitation with the
>>> Xterra over the FJ is that while Toyota's reputation
>>> for reliability is well-established, I'm not as sure
>>> about Nissan. Perhaps I'm biased because I remember my
>>> sister bought an old used Datsun station wagon in the
>>> early 80s and that thing was a rolling rust-bucket.
>>> Does Nissan's reliability rival Toyota's these days?
>>> What are people's experiences in that regard.
The FJ Cruiser and RAV4 compete in different segments - I'm surprised you were comparing the two. The RAV4 is a modern station wagon for people who don't want to admit they need a station wagon. With the optional V6 the RAV4 changes personality, turning into a poor man's Porsche Cayenne (at 1/3 the price!). The FJ Cruiser is a nice (but needlessly flawed) little vehicle that works equally well on or off road and is probably the easiest-to-live-with hardcore offroad-capable SUV on the market today.
Toyota and Honda have the highest quality vehicles - Nissan is still a level below in terms of reliability + manufacturing quality.
#22 of 41 Re: Toyota is losing goodwill with the FJ Cruiser pricing games. [cloned_2_death]
Jul 08, 2006 (10:11 am)
Dealers that say they have no control over the product are not being honest with you. With Toyota Canada (the US should be the same) the dealership orders whichever packages they think will sell. Also, in most of Canada we have fair pricing which means we don't sell above or below MSRP
Jul 08, 2006 (10:38 am)
Nissan's reliability is nowhere near Toyota. They are 8th among manufacturers in this years consumer reports predicted reliability. In my experience the Japanese built Nissan's are good (VIN starts with a J) and the North American ones are bad-especially the Mexican ones (VIN starts with a 3). That being said I am competely biased as I am a longtime Toyota owner and a Toyota salesman
#24 of 41 Re: Toyota is losing goodwill with the FJ Cruiser pricing games. [toyotasellingg]
Jul 08, 2006 (5:06 pm)
>>> Dealers that say they have no control over the product
>>> are not being honest with you. With Toyota Canada (the
>>> US should be the same) the dealership orders whichever
>>> packages they think will sell. Also, in most of Canada
>>> we have fair pricing which means we don't sell above
>>> or below MSRP
Things are not the same in Canada (just look at how difficult it is to get info on invoice prices there, etc). I'd be interested in hearing from someone who knows FOR SURE whether or not dealers are truly unable to order base FJ Cruisers in the US, or that they're making this up in an effort to sell as many option-stuffed vehicles as possible to those anxious to own the vehicle.
#25 of 41 Re: Toyota is losing goodwill with the FJ Cruiser pricing games. [cloned_2_death]
Jul 09, 2006 (2:19 pm)
I don't know for sure whether or not the individual dealerships are able to order the different models. At one dealership in Northern California there was a base 4X2 Dodger Blue with the Convenience Package (power windows). The dealership had three others, one of which they had lifted 3" and put high profile crome wheels. They then took the alloy wheels from that car and marked up the base model, because it had the alloys. The whole experience there was horrible, because they spent an hour trying to sell me a fully loaded one even aftger I told them over and over it was out of my price range, when i was finally ready to leave the miraculously found the one I was looking for, saying that they didn't know they had it and that it came in the night before. Somehow it was already on display at the opposite end of the lot.....I had pretty much already decided to buy an Xterra, this made my decision cake.
#26 of 41 FJ vs xTerra
Jul 27, 2006 (6:16 am)
I looked at xTerra too, but I barely fit into one of those things. The cab on the FJ is WAY roomier. Also the tilt on the wheel in the xT just barely moves the wheel up so you have to jam your leg underneath it and it put a black smudge on the leg of pants!!
I should mention that I am 6'6" tall so lots of vehicles dont fit me, but the FJ is just fine...I can even where a hat while driving!!! Now that is novel, for me anyway...
#27 of 41 Re: FJ vs xTerra [gypsyjon]
Aug 13, 2006 (7:20 pm)
Are you sure you put the seat back all the way? I don't really see how that is possible. The front seat dimensions are nearly identical between the two cars, actually if you look at the numbers, with the exception of headroom (which has 1" less than the FJ), the Xterra is larger in all other catergories, including leg room. I would suggest checking it out again.
#28 of 41 Re: FJ vs xTerra [aazevedo]
Aug 14, 2006 (6:04 am)
I don't know about the measured dimensions, but that acutal useable sitting down space is WAY smaller in the X-Terra. Not to mention the swing on the tilt wheel sucks. It barely moves up at all.
The salesman was right there and had me get out while he put the seats to maximum adjustment and at 6'6" I flat do not fit into one of those things.