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Re: gm does not have a capable hybrid? [fshi] by scortch
Jan 23, 2008 (11:03 am)

Replying to: fshi (Jan 23, 2008 8:14 am)

LOL, trying ot make GM look good by comparing the Tahoe and Sequoia. Classic
 
Prius, no GM equivalent
Camry hybrid, no GM equivalent (gas mileage wise)
Highlander hybrid, no GM equivalent
 
and you want to point out Tahoe? LOL
 
I like GM overall, my last 5 out of 7, including my current vehicle has been GM but, we must face reality here. They are trying to pull a fast one on people big time.
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Re: gm does not have a capable hybrid? [scortch] by fshi
Jan 24, 2008 (6:44 am)

Replying to: scortch (Jan 23, 2008 11:03 am)

in the full size suv/truck market, toyota does not have any hybrid offerings, when people brag about prius's milage, you have to consider that is a less capable vehicle than the full size suv. there are lot of customers in the full size vecicle segment, gm leads in that segment. period. toyota leads in the smaller vehicle segment. you do not drive larger vehicle does not mean it is nonexsist.
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Re: gm does not have a capable hybrid? [mickeyrom] by fshi
Jan 24, 2008 (6:52 am)

Replying to: mickeyrom (Jan 23, 2008 9:16 am)

"I do know that the Highlander Hybrid gets about 30MPG.,the Prius can pretty much guarantee 44MPG all around. The Ford Escape ,using Toyota's technology gets over 30 MPG,so the 22 that Tahoe gets is a joke."
 
Is this how you measure efficiency without considering vehicle segment? sure you would not understand that a military tank if get 5mpg is more efficient than a prius. a honda crx 20yrs ago without hybrid gets over 40mpg. according to your logic that is very efficient., look at its size and weight. I can not believe how people read a post.
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Re: gm does not have a capable hybrid? [aspesisteve] by fshi
Jan 24, 2008 (7:00 am)

Replying to: aspesisteve (Jan 23, 2008 9:24 am)

hehe, tahoe driver does not want to drive in the commuter lane, because it is slower.
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Re: gm does not have a capable hybrid? [fshi] by scortch
Jan 24, 2008 (7:52 am)

Replying to: fshi (Jan 24, 2008 6:44 am)

This isn't about trucks though. This is about GM in general and in this specific case, the Malibu hybrid. In that case, the Prius and Camry more than qualify for comparisons.
 
GM does not have a working hybrid that helps with fuel savings, period. They CLAIM 2 MPG more but in reality, it's no better than changing your driving habits and buying better fuel.
 
Having more numbers does not mean leading. You need to look up what Toyota offers since you don't seem to know what they do offer. Either way, that's not the point.
 
The point is GM's version of the hybrid is a hack job that's been cobbled together that's nothing but a scam to try and make people think they are green.
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Re: gm does not have a capable hybrid? [scortch] by fshi
Jan 24, 2008 (8:07 am)

Replying to: scortch (Jan 24, 2008 7:52 am)

I agree that Malibu hybrid's 2mpg gain is disappointing, it does not have a big price hike either.
 
"GM does not have a working hybrid that helps with fuel savings, period. They CLAIM 2 MPG more but in reality, it's no better than changing your driving habits and buying better fuel."
 
How about the buses? the coming full size suv and pickup truck will have a larger impact than the tiny prius. sure you can get 2mpg gain by changing driving habit, better fuel etc, but that is not a scientific way of measuring. everything being equal, that is the rule, and you can get 10% saving with this bas hybrid on top of what you just mentioned.
 
As your comments that I do not know lot about toyota's hybrid offerings, where do you get that?
 
people think toyota is greener, it is true, but not a whole lot, as it is expanding its product line to bigger vehicles. it truck is actually less efficient than gm's. their average fleet MPG is very similar to GM's. surprise?
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Re: gm does not have a capable hybrid? [fshi] by scortch
Jan 24, 2008 (8:20 am)

Replying to: fshi (Jan 24, 2008 8:07 am)

Again you are comparing apples to oranges. Buses are not the topic.
 
Overall, GM's green advertising is a scam along with their hybrid offerings.
 
One day, in the future, when every one else is using hydrogen, GM will come out with these fuel efficient suvs and trucks. The future is not now. Look how many years the Prius has been out and now the Camry and Highlander and Ford's hybrid offerings. GM is YEARS behind and then tries to make the people believe it's green.
 
Yes, I am a GM owner too.
 
I just think the Malibu hybrid is a scam. It's definitely not a TRUE hybrid in the way that Toyota has defined it and built it for the last 10+ years (7 years in the U.S.). The Prius and Camry compared to the Malibu, are more than capable of being compared to each other.
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Re: gm does not have a capable hybrid? [fshi] by aspesisteve
Jan 24, 2008 (8:44 pm)

Replying to: fshi (Jan 24, 2008 8:07 am)

"coming full size suv and pickup truck will have a larger impact than the tiny prius."
 
I think the word "coming" should say it all when the Prius is not just here and now, but has been here and proved itself for several years with excellent ownership ratings.
 
Toyota made a powerfull big gas guzzling truck because the market demanded it. They also made the Prius and created the market for the hybrid.
 
The Volt looks cool, but it's just hype at this point. Being 5 years ahead in the hybrid market is a huge lead. I really don't see anything like the Prius coming from GM on the horizon.
 
If reducing the use of oil and mpg is the ultimate goal, the Tahoe hybrid isn't going to buy much.
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Re: gm does not have a capable hybrid? [scortch] by gagrice
Jan 24, 2008 (9:49 pm)

Replying to: scortch (Jan 24, 2008 8:20 am)

Overall, GM's green advertising is a scam along with their hybrid offerings.
 
I think the Saturn VUE is doing ok for itself. It is bigger than the Escape Hybrid and gets better mileage on the highway. The Malibu is bigger than the Camry and has 50% more trunk space. That tiny trunk in the Camry would be a deal killer for me, if I was interested in a small sedan.
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Re: gm does not have a capable hybrid? [gagrice] by larsb
Jan 25, 2008 (5:42 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Jan 24, 2008 9:49 pm)

Gary, if the Camry or Highlander forums were showing up with as many problems as the owners at the Saturn Vue Hybrids are having and reporting, you'd be ALL over Toyota.
 
Go read a few issues to see what I mean.
 
The database at gh.com shows the Vue Hybrid at 26 MPG and the Escape hybrid averaging in at 30.5 (2wd and 4wd included.)
 
So it's last in it's class, and the most problematic for the owners. If being the worst and more troublesome in the category is "doing OK for itself" then I guess losers rule.......LOL...........

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