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What amazes me is how dependable and trouble free the Toyota Hybrid system has been when you consider it's complexity. We have some friends with an older Prius with over 100 K miles and they havent had a single problem. CR predicts reliability above average...excellent. This applies to the Japanese made cars as well as the Ford Escape which uses the same system. Why cant GM come up with a similar system? The 2MPG increase is a joke. 
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Jan 21, 2008 11:02 am) |
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| Toyota has set the benchmark for hybrids, let the battle begin. GM's attempt at hybrids is laughable, at this pace they will never catch Toyota. Ford's hybrid is actually Toyota's first generation hybrid system. Ford wanted to get in the game quickly and purchased their hybrid from Toyota and paid big $$. | |
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gm tahoe's two mode hybrid is more advanced than prius'. tahoe 21/22 rating is day and night better than sequoia's 14/19 rating. think it is low? it is the same as camry 4cylinder city. it can haul 8 people, 6000lbs, 6.0ltr v8. it is very EFFICIENT. toyota make great small cars. look at prius and assume it is gas-only you would expect it get 30 city, (for its size, functionality, fit, versa all similar), with hybrid it has about 50% boost of fuel economy. Tahoe is the same if not more. Tahoe's saving of fuel is much more than prius. It has bigger environmental impact than the tiny prius. |
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Replying to: fshi (Jan 23, 2008 8:14 am) PS if the GM system is really all that great...why is it that the AURA and the Chevy hybrids are rated no better than my conventional KIA Optima?
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Replying to: fshi (Jan 23, 2008 8:14 am) now that's spin Maybe they should allow the Tahoe to drive in the commuter lane?  LOL
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Replying to: fshi (Jan 23, 2008 8:14 am) Prius, no GM equivalent Camry hybrid, no GM equivalent (gas mileage wise) Highlander hybrid, no GM equivalent and you want to point out Tahoe? LOL I like GM overall, my last 5 out of 7, including my current vehicle has been GM but, we must face reality here. They are trying to pull a fast one on people big time.
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Replying to: scortch (Jan 23, 2008 11:03 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Jan 23, 2008 9:16 am) Is this how you measure efficiency without considering vehicle segment? sure you would not understand that a military tank if get 5mpg is more efficient than a prius. a honda crx 20yrs ago without hybrid gets over 40mpg. according to your logic that is very efficient., look at its size and weight. I can not believe how people read a post. |
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jan 23, 2008 9:24 am) |
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