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Replying to: scortch (Jan 13, 2008 7:36 pm) You can probably get more fuel savings just by walking to the store to get your groceries instead of driving. In addition you will get the health benefit. 
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Replying to: scortch (Jan 12, 2008 10:23 am) I went to the car show here in San Jose. Chevy probably spends more money promoting how "green" they are than they actually do on the technology. It's like Exon talking about how they "care" about alternative forms of energy. Mitt Romney says he's going to save Michigan? LOL 
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jan 14, 2008 11:25 am) Btw, check the EPA ratings on the GM Tahoe/Yukon/Suburbans and then check the EPA rating on Toyota's new Sequoia and Land Cruiser. You might be surprised about which ones are more efficient. |
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Replying to: nedzel (Jan 18, 2008 10:53 am) GM's E85 doesn't count as being green. In fact, it's not green at all when you look at the whole picture of corn based ethanol. |
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Replying to: nedzel (Jan 18, 2008 10:53 am) but not everybody sells hybrid vehicles that are worth their weight. I'm not sure how you can fault Toyota for their effort in being 'green' - there isn't another car maker doing it better than them when it comes to selling hybrids. which brings me back to the Malibu Hybrid and any other hybrid or "green" product sold by GM - it's just spin with no substance.
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jan 20, 2008 4:25 pm) I wonder if due to the new CAFE standards if GM is trying to put a little hybrid into everything they do? Even if each only increases mileage marginally, a small gain across the board is probably more beneficial to their bottom-line than having a bunch of gas guzzlers and one knock-out hybrid.
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Replying to: nosirrahg (Jan 20, 2008 8:39 pm) Thing is, if GM is going to spend all that R&D money on bringing a hybrid into existence for GM vehicles, why not do it right instead of the crap they came up with? If they really wanted to be green, it would be a lot better than the junk they have. It would be MUCH more beneficial to their bottom line if they did it right to begin with. The government should require hybrids to get xx more mileage than the equivalent gas only version of a vehicle, before they give any kind of credits or be recognized at all. Maybe we need a new category other than hybrid, since GM has proven that just because it is a hybrid, doesn't mean it's green or better. The Malibu hybrid should be getting 34 or so city mileage at least. Even the Prius is finding it hard to justify the cost of ownership in some cases. The Malibu hybrid would no near be able to justify it's cost of ownership. It puts more of a burden on the consumer instead of helping them. It's just like E85, just because it uses a different fuel, doesn't make it better. E85 as it is currently isn't that green at all once you look at the big picture of corn based ethanol. Trying to pull one over on the public and saying you are green doesn't make you green. |
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What amazes me is how dependable and trouble free the Toyota Hybrid system has been when you consider it's complexity. We have some friends with an older Prius with over 100 K miles and they havent had a single problem. CR predicts reliability above average...excellent. This applies to the Japanese made cars as well as the Ford Escape which uses the same system. Why cant GM come up with a similar system? The 2MPG increase is a joke. 
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Jan 21, 2008 11:02 am) |
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| Toyota has set the benchmark for hybrids, let the battle begin. GM's attempt at hybrids is laughable, at this pace they will never catch Toyota. Ford's hybrid is actually Toyota's first generation hybrid system. Ford wanted to get in the game quickly and purchased their hybrid from Toyota and paid big $$. | |
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