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#48 of 163
Before we stray too far... by pf_flyer HOST
Sep 26, 2007 (4:16 pm)
Let's leave this spot for discussion of the Malibu hybrid and take Versa and Prius chat to the appropriate homes
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Re: only an idiot would compare a versa and a prius [stevedebi] by foxwalker
Sep 26, 2007 (5:06 pm)

Replying to: stevedebi (Sep 26, 2007 12:17 pm)

I'm sorry coalburner called you an idiot. I would rather be more conversational than confrontational. I had not looked into the Versa. I am sure it is a nice car. Edmonds does not seem to think the Versa and Prius are comparable and compare the Versa against the Fit and Yaris.
 
When testing the Prius, I compared it to another Hybrid, say the Civic. The road noise in the Prius was non-existent, there were so many little added features that no other car (in the price range) seems to have, like the backup camera, the key-less entry system, standard ABS brakes and so many other little things that just add to a wow factor that is not available in comparable priced anything.
 
Since I was at the Toyota dealer I tried a Corolla a great little car with great gas mileage but.... This brings me to the point. Gas mileage is only one reason to buy a car, but still if you are going to make a hybrid, make it a lot better in gas than the non-hybrid version otherwise what is the point? Sorry about straying so far off Malibu.
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Straying happens...LOL by pf_flyer HOST
Sep 27, 2007 (2:39 am)
The subject of hybrids with not-so-spectacular gas mileage was the subject of a recent entry on the Alternate Route. You can check out Boon or Bane? and leave a comment there if the mood strikes you!
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Re: Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid in 2007? [luvmbooty] by reneem
Oct 24, 2007 (6:56 am)

Replying to: luvmbooty (Jun 12, 2006 9:37 pm)

I just wrote an article that talks about the New Malibu that is coming out and compares it to some of the other new cars on the market. You may find the information useful. Here is the link
 
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/419684/new_chevy_malibu_vs_honda_and_to- yota.html">link title
#52 of 163
Re: Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid in 2007? [reneem] by csandste
Oct 24, 2007 (10:29 pm)

Replying to: reneem (Oct 24, 2007 6:56 am)

That's one of the most incomprehensible reviews I've ever seen...
 
"The Honda also has some additional safety features such the three point seat belts, with automatic tensioning system, standard adjustable front seat belt anchors, standards driver and passenger seat belt reminders, standard vehicle stability assist with traction control, standard brake assist, tire pressure monitoring system, standard anti lock braking system, side impact door beams, child seat tether anchor."
 
Aren't most of these things required by law? What is the last car you saw that didn't remind you to put on the seat belt?
 
"When it comes to torqueRPM however there is a difference. The Malibu is 1604500, the Camry is 1614000, and the accord is 1614300."
 
Some difference, 1 foot pound. Renee, Renee, Renee... I hope they didn't pay you to write this review.
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Well... by mfletou1
Oct 25, 2007 (12:45 pm)
Look at what Camry Hybrid's are going for and what the feature content is. They're headed down to the $23-$24 level. Before the $2600 tax credit (which I got) I paid around $26 for mine, but it has features that aren't available on the Malibu. The 2007 Camry was much closer to the Camry XLE than anything else. People have widely misundertood the TCH for that reason, and compared it to a base Camry as if it is apples to apples. Its not.
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It boils down to this by scortch
Oct 28, 2007 (10:35 pm)
It boils down to simple stupidity for me. I mean come on. What's the point of creating a car with a hybrid engine, if it's not going to provide any better gas mileage? WTF should I even bother with a hybrid that's no better than a standard engine vehicle?
 
Come on Chevy. You enter the hybrid scene with something this stupid. Why waste the resources and money of R&D on something that provides the consumer with no gain? Plain stupidity. No wonder they are having financial troubles.
 
If I'm going to spend the money on a hybrid, it's going to get significantly better gas mileage. It would just be a waste of money to buy a Malibu Hybrid. They should just remove the line and move on.
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Re: It boils down to this [scortch] by nosirrahg
Oct 29, 2007 (9:22 am)

Replying to: scortch (Oct 28, 2007 10:35 pm)

The Malibu Hybrid does provide about a 10% increase in fuel economy, but by the same token the cost is about 10% greater than a base model...so somewhat of a wash there I suppose. The benefit I see for this model would be for someone like myself who will be trading in a 2000 Impala, so the gas mileage increase from my current car to the Malibu hybrid will be more like 25%.
 
I agree that the Prius, though slightly smaller in all dimensions than the 2008 Malibu, makes more sense...both dollar-wise and environmentally. However, from what I've seen the Prius models on local dealer lots tend to be optioned up to the point that their prices fall more in the $25k+ window instead of closer to $22k, which begins to erode the financial benefits of the Prius. Probably smart on Chevy's part to limit the options on the Malibu hybrid, since it's price becomes more or less static.
 
Availability of the Saturn Aura Hybrid has been limited, and I suspect the Malibu Hybrid will be the same...whether that's a marketing, production, or demand decision I don't know; but I'd guess they're offering the hybrid to have something out there, but they really won't ramp up production and push the hybrid models until they get a plug-in and/or two-mode hybrid out in a couple of years.
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Re: It boils down to this [nosirrahg] by scortch
Oct 29, 2007 (11:42 am)

Replying to: nosirrahg (Oct 29, 2007 9:22 am)

10% gain is nothing. You can get a 10% increase simply by changing where you get gas or by driving differently.
 
They should have spent the money on a true hybrid that was better than what is out there from the other manufacturers.
 
Spending it to simply say "Hey look, we have a hybrid" is dumb.
#57 of 163
Re: It boils down to this [scortch] by nosirrahg
Oct 29, 2007 (2:00 pm)

Replying to: scortch (Oct 29, 2007 11:42 am)

With CAFE standards as they are, I suspect even a gain of 10% helps. I drove a previous generation Saturn Vue hybrid with this similar setup, and I didn't notice much difference between driving it and a standard version. From what I've read the Prius/Camry hybrids draw a lot of attention to their "hybridness" in terms of performance, braking, etc. If the Malibu hybrid is more transparent in that regard, it might appeal to a more mainstream buyer. Considering there's no other domestic hybrid sedan out there other (other than the Saturn Aura), maybe GM figures having something to offer, even if it's not a "true" hybrid, is better than nothing at all.
 
From what I've read the 2008 Saturn Vue will have the same basic setup as the Aura/Malibu, but I think I read that by the next year they may offer a true dual-mode hybrid, and the year after that they may offer a plug-in hybrid version (albeit one that will only deliver about 10 miles of driving on a charge). I'm hopeful something similar is coming for sedans as well; my commute one-way to work is about 12 miles, so if I could cover almost half that with electric alone and cut my gas consumption in half that'd be pretty impressive. Still not as good as what the Volt promises, but every little bit helps.

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