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Re: 2008 Hybrid? by raywert
Jul 06, 2007 (4:44 am)

Replying to: nosirrahg (Jul 04, 2007 8:16 pm)

Anyone see these spy shots of the Malibu Hybrid?
 
http://jalopnik.com/cars/spy-photos/2008-chevrolet-malibu-hybrid-275423.php
 
Ray
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Re: 2008 Hybrid? [raywert] by nosirrahg
Jul 06, 2007 (2:49 pm)

Replying to: raywert (Jul 06, 2007 4:44 am)

Ran across that last night myself; seems to further support the theory of the hybrid coming online soon. I keep hearing it will be end of 2007/beginning of 2008 before the new Malibu hits the showrooms; I hope it's sooner instead of later. I've had trouble finding an Aura Green Line to test drive; either production is slow or they can't keep them on the lot. I'm planning to buy by this time next year, so I'm hoping there's plenty of inventory (hybrid and non) to choose from when the time comes.
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Re: 2008 Hybrid? [nosirrahg] by g3arh3ad
Aug 24, 2007 (3:50 pm)

Replying to: nosirrahg (Jul 06, 2007 2:49 pm)

Why would they bother with a hybrid for the 2 mpg savings...Typical GM philosophy...
At least Chrysler is blindly putting faith in their powertrain warranty...should be good for bankruptcy by 2010
The Malibu will still be a Malibu with GM's famed maintenance expense driving people to well made imports!
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Re: 2008 Hybrid? [g3arh3ad] by nosirrahg
Aug 25, 2007 (9:59 am)

Replying to: g3arh3ad (Aug 24, 2007 3:50 pm)

That Chrysler warranty is fine...assuming Chrysler is still around 5 years from now.
 
The 2 MPG gain of the Malibu Hybrid doesn't sound like much, but it's about a 10% gain, at a price point that should be several thousands less than the Camry hybrid. I think it'll prove to be a good compromise until the Volt arrives.
#30 of 163
Re: 2008 Hybrid? [nosirrahg] by g3arh3ad
Aug 27, 2007 (4:22 pm)

Replying to: nosirrahg (Aug 25, 2007 9:59 am)

GM's philosophy seems to be..."If you try hard, there's no end to the things you can't do!!!
The Volt is based on technology that does not currently exist. The supposition that the mass population will want a plug in is not what is being exhibited by the buying public!
Methinks they will screw up even this mild hybrid.
#31 of 163
Re: 2008 Hybrid? [g3arh3ad] by nosirrahg
Aug 27, 2007 (7:14 pm)

Replying to: g3arh3ad (Aug 27, 2007 4:22 pm)

To my knowledge the only technology that doesn't currently exist to make the Volt a reality is a more compact battery than what is currently available; there's no reason to think that won't be possible in the very near future. And I think the reason the buying public isn't clambering for a plug-in hybrid might be influenced by the fact that there are none readily available. Seems like the folks who once drove EV1s were pretty happy with those plug-in vehicles.
 
Methinks a lot of folks will deride the Malibu/Aura hybrids because they don't get the gas mileage of a Camry hybrid...but you'll see the Malibu/Aura drivers sitting a little higher in their vehicles because they've got a few extra thou' in their back pockets that the Camry hybrid driver will never drive long enough to recoup the difference. Do the math and the Camry hybrid makes no sense. The Prius does, if you don't need much room.
 
Obviously I haven't seen a Malibu in person, let alone driven one, so I hesitate to say it's the best compromise between Camry-size and Prius-efficiency and cost; but it's a step in the right direction (though I think the Volt setup will make it irrelevant once it hits the streets).
 
I'm hoping to delay my next car purchase for a couple of years, but if I had to make a purchase next year the Malibu Hybrid would be the car I'd look at first, and compare everything else to.
#32 of 163
Malibu Hybrid 32 mpg highway and 24 mpg city? by hwyhobo
Aug 31, 2007 (6:28 pm)
I just read in Autoweek what the expected mileage is supposed to be.
 
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The hybrid version also goes on sale in November. It is rated at 32 mpg highway and 24 mpg city.
 
Wait, I am confused. The current 4 cyl Malibu gets (according to Edmunds) 24 mpg city and 34 mpg highway. Does that mean that the hybrid will be less fuel efficient? Is that due to the change in EPA mileage reporting methodology?
 
I like the Malibu, simple, understated, gets the job done, but those numbers are underwhelming.
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Re: Malibu Hybrid 32 mpg highway and 24 mpg city? [hwyhobo] by nosirrahg
Aug 31, 2007 (7:57 pm)

Replying to: hwyhobo (Aug 31, 2007 6:28 pm)

I think it's the "new math" the EPA is using.
 
Here's the "new" figures for the 2008 Malibu (from fueleconomy.gov):
2.4L 4-cylinder 24 city/32 highway (hybrid)
2.4L 4-cylinder 22 city/30 highway
 
The "new" figures for the 2007 Malibu are:
2.2L 4-cylinder 21 city/31 highway.
 
For comparison, the "old" EPA figures were 24 city/34 highway for the '07 4-cylinder.
 
I also checked and they list the "old" numbers for the new Malibu hybrid as 28 city/35 highway. Considering my 2000 Impala was rated as 20 city/30 highway, and I've consistently run closer to those numbers than the "new" 17 city/27 highway, I'd think/hope I'd come in closer to the old numbers than the new on any car.
 
Either way it looks like the Malibu hybrid's main advantage will be in increased city mileage improvements.
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Re: Malibu Hybrid 32 mpg highway and 24 mpg city? [nosirrahg] by hwyhobo
Aug 31, 2007 (11:03 pm)

Replying to: nosirrahg (Aug 31, 2007 7:57 pm)

Thanks. I suspected that but wasn't sure. Still, the numbers don't strike me as a big reason to pay for the hybrid with its added complexity, particularly in view of what Toyota can do with that technology (I understand that it's a different system, but to a consumer ultimately what matters is the end result, not how they got there).
#35 of 163
Re: Malibu Hybrid 32 mpg highway and 24 mpg city? [hwyhobo] by nosirrahg
Sep 01, 2007 (9:15 am)

Replying to: hwyhobo (Aug 31, 2007 11:03 pm)

I think you can probably do the math on the Malibu hybrid versus the Camry hybrid and make a case for the fact that even though the Camry gets better mileage, it also costs more...and you'd have to drive the car for 150-200k miles to save enough money on gas to make it worthwhile (and that doesn't factor in the cost of battery replacement). With gas prices changing all the time (and who knows if the Malibu will actually sell at or near sticker) it's hard to really say at this point.
 
On the other hand, the same argument works against the Malibu when you look at the Prius, which gets stellar gas mileage at roughly the same price as the 'bu hybrid. Not having compared the cars side-by-side I don't know if the Malibu is larger/nicer enough to compensate for the lower mileage or not. I also think the fact that the Prius has a unique look that identifies it as a hybrid works in its favor, since driving the Prius makes a statement (and plays a factor in some people choosing it). I honestly think Chevy should put fender skirts or something more distinguishing on the Malibu hybrid than just a few little badges (even if it were an optional thing), so that those who want to flaunt their hybrid status could do so.

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