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#148 of 163 Re: gm does not have a capable hybrid? [aspesisteve] by bhill2 Jun 02, 2008 (11:39 am)
Replying to: aspesisteve (Jun 02, 2008 9:54 am) I would be interested to see figures on how sales of the Tahoe Hybrid are going now that they have the 2-stage hybrid. This hybrid seems to provide an impressive decrease in fuel consumption.   Presently the Malibu Hybrid is a 'mild' hybrid, which is another way of saying what aspesisteve did, that it is an excuse for GM to promote their commitment to being green without actually having to provide the technology. However, if GM adapted the 2-stage to the Malibu, I think they might have a mainstream car that could actually make a real difference.
#149 of 163 why didn't by aspesisteve Jun 07, 2008 (7:50 am)
General Motors put their better more sophisticated 2 mode hybrid system that is being strapped on the Tahoe into the Malibu?   It would be interesting to see what they could get in milege here.
#150 of 163 Re: What is the point? [kingacres] by mike_mpg Jul 13, 2008 (8:06 am)
Replying to: kingacres (Jan 12, 2008 1:44 am) The problem now is the premium on a Prius. The payback before took about 4 years compared to a Toyota Corolla. With A $2000 premium it takes over 8 years. A comment about all hybrid systems. They only provide benefit for frequent stop-and-go driving. If you're an LA freeway driver, then this is the car for you. If you are driving long distances without a break, then a diesel like the Jetta is the car for you. The prius can get high 40s on the highway too, but because of good aero drag, narrow tires and a very small engine (1.5L) running Atkinson cycle. I used to think the mild hybrids offered by GM were pointless too, but they also shut off on coast and at intersections, making them lower emissions cars in that use. The 2.4L engine also runs Atkinson cycle, which improves economy a bit, but the car is much bigger and heavier than a Prius. There may be no premiums on the Malibu Hybrid and since GM is hurting right now, you may be able to score an incentive from GM as well as the IRS incentive. The IRS incentive for Prius may have already been used up. Hmmmmm. I personally love the styling of the Malibu, but that doesn't save any gas. Replies to this message: aspesisteve (Jul 15, 2008 5:06 pm)
#151 of 163 Re: What is the point? [mike_mpg] by aspesisteve Jul 15, 2008 (5:06 pm)
Replying to: mike_mpg (Jul 13, 2008 8:06 am) it's not just about payback, sometimes people just want to have a smaller foot print on the world - that's why some choose to put solar panels on their roof even if it takes 12 years to break even.   if you get pleasure out of giving to charity, then think of the planet as a great cause. the Prius is a huge success for Toyota. It definitely took some vision and strategy to get it to market and make people want them. Now they are waiting in line for them.   GM isn't offering discounts on the hybrid Tahoe (that I know of) - as for the hybrid Malibu, I don't think anyone cares because the bonus is so minute.
#152 of 163 Mild Hybrid -Mediocre mileage by rjsplace Jul 21, 2008 (5:12 pm)
All the engineering an GM comes up with a mild Hybrid that gets you a sticker on the car that says Hybrid but little else.Lets hope the VOLT actually gets produced but it wont be early 2010 I bet. I have a 2006 Grand Prix 3800 engine one of GMs finest engines good for 200,000 miles and I get 30 miles to the gallon Highway.But of course GM is discontinuing it. So if you want reliabilty and good mileage buy any GM product with a 3800 while still available. Replies to this message: aspesisteve (Jul 22, 2008 12:50 pm)
#153 of 163 Re: Mild Hybrid -Mediocre mileage [rjsplace] by aspesisteve Jul 22, 2008 (12:50 pm)
Replying to: rjsplace (Jul 21, 2008 5:12 pm) if GM gets the Volt to market it will be a small feather in their cap. the cost and complexity just isn't going to allow them to put one in every neighborhood.   It would be good PR, but little more imo
#154 of 163 engine off when park and neutral by pawntan Jul 30, 2008 (5:23 pm)
Right now the malibu hybrid only turn off the engine when we hit the brake, and the gear is in 'D' (drive). I would love for the engine to turn off also when the gear is in park and neutral. Is there a way where we can reprogram the computer to turn off the engine when in park and neutral ? I wonder why GM does not design it that way. It would seem logical to turn off the engine when the car is not moving no matter what. After all it is easy enough to reprogram the computer to do that.
#155 of 163 How many Malibu Hybrids have been sold? by aspesisteve Sep 08, 2008 (8:32 am)
anyone know? Replies to this message: larsb (Sep 08, 2008 8:57 am)
#156 of 163 Re: How many Malibu Hybrids have been sold? [aspesisteve] by larsb Sep 08, 2008 (8:57 am)
Replying to: aspesisteve (Sep 08, 2008 8:32 am) From Green Car Congress:   "August sales of the Malibu with GHS reached 388 units in the month, for 2.5% of all Malibu sales.   So with almost 16K Malibus sold in August, and August hybrids were 2.5 % of total sales, I guess you can estimate that they have sold about 400 Malibu hybrids per month this year.
#157 of 163 Malibu Hybrid FE by aviboy97 Sep 15, 2008 (9:16 am)
I gotta tell ya, I think the EPA estimates on the Malibu Hybrid stink! 32hwy and 24city? Common, that's barely better then the non-hybrid Malibu, plus, it has less power!! That's terrible! It should AT LEAST get 30mpg CITY!   Question to GM. Why would I pay thousands more for a Malibu Hybrid when the non hybrid get's almost the SAME mpg and has a bit more power?? Replies to this message: aspesisteve (Sep 15, 2008 5:35 pm)

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