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Replying to: fshi (Jan 27, 2008 7:53 pm) The scam here is GM's version of the hybrid that's sole purpose is to say look, we have a hybrid too. Ok, yea, we got it wrong but it's still a hybrid, so please buy me instead of a Camry or Accord. I would but not the hybrid version. Again, not counting the Tahoe, etc. Just the Malibu and Aura. They were trying to counter the Camry and Accord hybrids and failed miserably. They had the technology already there that was used in the Vue, Tahoe, etc. Why on God's green earth did they get so stupid as to put this junk in these cars? |
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Replying to: scortch (Jan 27, 2008 11:40 pm) Again, not counting the Tahoe, etc. Just the Malibu and Aura. They were trying to counter the Camry and Accord hybrids and failed miserably. They had the technology already there that was used in the Vue, Tahoe, etc. Why on God's green earth did they get so stupid as to put this junk in these cars? " The sole purpose you are talking about is your interpretation of what GM is doing. By definition BAS system is a Hybrid. It uses both electric and gas to power a vehicle. whether it yieds 10% or 30% is another issue, it has to asscociate with cost. GM put this BAS system to the market, and did not hide the fact that is yields about 10% fuel economy gain, and carries a 10% price premium. What is wrong with it? You think people will go buy a hybrid just becaue it is called a hybrid and follows whatever company's ad, you underestimate average customer's wisdom. Everything is PRINTED on the paper. GM's hybrid is a low cost option. As to your comment about why GM has the technology on VUE, Tahoe but not on cars? The reason is the same that why toyota does not put Prius technology on Tundra and Sequoia? The technology for small cars is different from the one for big trucks. Gm does not has the one as competitive as Toyota's offereing for small car, while Toyota does not have ANYTHING for big trucks. I see our discussion is all about faith, not fact, therefore it is getting nowhere...
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Replying to: fshi (Jan 28, 2008 12:00 pm)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Jan 28, 2008 3:26 pm) Sure, might I also point out again that GM technology will be used in BMW, Daimler, Chrysler SUVs? |
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Replying to: scortch (Jan 27, 2008 11:40 pm) jt
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Replying to: jnt (Jan 29, 2008 5:27 pm) When it comes to hybrids, GM is selling promises when Toyota has produced results in the form of thousands of happy Prius drivers. to think of the Malibu hybrid as a "value based" hybrid is comical. We shall see how many people buy into that. |
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Replying to: jnt (Jan 29, 2008 5:27 pm) As was said above, the value hybrid is comical and a waste of money on both sides. Why are they not introducing it here in the U.S. first? WTF cares about China?
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Replying to: scortch (Jan 30, 2008 11:38 am) 
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Replying to: scortch (Jan 30, 2008 11:38 am) You guys are just blindly believe GM is way behind, and interpret everything to prove this belief. GM BAS hybrid wasted your money as well? How? According to your logic, if toyota makes money with Prius, it send you a check? 10% fuel economy gain is very significant especially with a very small price premium. and considered a major technology breakthrough in engine technology. VVT, AFM can only yield less than 5%. link title Read this more carefully and do not put your personal interpretation in it. The hybrid GM introducing in China is a BAS system, will introduce two-mode in the future. GM has introduced two-mode in US on saturn VUE and Tahoe/Yukon, volt plug in is due out in 2010, why bother to introduce this two-mode on cars? two-mode is best suited for trucks.
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