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Replying to: scortch (Jan 27, 2008 5:28 pm) shame on the politicians taking the bait and forming bad policy and shame on GM for promoting it. the person in this forum suggesting GM is doing more for hybrid technology than Toyota is out in left field. He's either employed by GM to push spin or sadly blinded by their marketing hype. To suggest the Malibu Hybrid is a value based hybrid....lol  And the Volt? don't even get me started.
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Replying to: aspesisteve (Jan 27, 2008 5:42 pm) what about you? you are blinded not seeing the gm two-mode hybrid for big suvs and pick trucks. everything toyota has is real help to the environment, everything GM or other car maker has is scam or cheating or sth. Anybody disagree with you is just GM employee... I see your logic here. How many times do I need to repeat? Prius's saving to you may be big, but its impact on environment as compared to the entire auto segments is almost negligible. I give credit to anyone that is pushing the technology in the big suv/pickup segment unless you can convince the customer to abandon this segment, that segment is far bigger than your tiny prius segment. Hard to understand? or you do not want to accept?
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Let's not let this turn personal please. Thanks! |
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Replying to: fshi (Jan 27, 2008 7:53 pm) The scam here is GM's version of the hybrid that's sole purpose is to say look, we have a hybrid too. Ok, yea, we got it wrong but it's still a hybrid, so please buy me instead of a Camry or Accord. I would but not the hybrid version. Again, not counting the Tahoe, etc. Just the Malibu and Aura. They were trying to counter the Camry and Accord hybrids and failed miserably. They had the technology already there that was used in the Vue, Tahoe, etc. Why on God's green earth did they get so stupid as to put this junk in these cars? |
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Replying to: scortch (Jan 27, 2008 11:40 pm) Again, not counting the Tahoe, etc. Just the Malibu and Aura. They were trying to counter the Camry and Accord hybrids and failed miserably. They had the technology already there that was used in the Vue, Tahoe, etc. Why on God's green earth did they get so stupid as to put this junk in these cars? " The sole purpose you are talking about is your interpretation of what GM is doing. By definition BAS system is a Hybrid. It uses both electric and gas to power a vehicle. whether it yieds 10% or 30% is another issue, it has to asscociate with cost. GM put this BAS system to the market, and did not hide the fact that is yields about 10% fuel economy gain, and carries a 10% price premium. What is wrong with it? You think people will go buy a hybrid just becaue it is called a hybrid and follows whatever company's ad, you underestimate average customer's wisdom. Everything is PRINTED on the paper. GM's hybrid is a low cost option. As to your comment about why GM has the technology on VUE, Tahoe but not on cars? The reason is the same that why toyota does not put Prius technology on Tundra and Sequoia? The technology for small cars is different from the one for big trucks. Gm does not has the one as competitive as Toyota's offereing for small car, while Toyota does not have ANYTHING for big trucks. I see our discussion is all about faith, not fact, therefore it is getting nowhere...
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Replying to: fshi (Jan 28, 2008 12:00 pm)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Jan 28, 2008 3:26 pm) Sure, might I also point out again that GM technology will be used in BMW, Daimler, Chrysler SUVs? |
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Replying to: scortch (Jan 27, 2008 11:40 pm) jt
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Replying to: jnt (Jan 29, 2008 5:27 pm) When it comes to hybrids, GM is selling promises when Toyota has produced results in the form of thousands of happy Prius drivers. to think of the Malibu hybrid as a "value based" hybrid is comical. We shall see how many people buy into that. |
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Replying to: jnt (Jan 29, 2008 5:27 pm) As was said above, the value hybrid is comical and a waste of money on both sides. Why are they not introducing it here in the U.S. first? WTF cares about China?
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