Last post on Jul 06, 2013 at 2:30 AM
You are in the Honda Insight
What is this discussion about?
Honda Insight, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Hatchback
#156 of 166 Re: 'real world' MPG [mickeyrom]
Mar 20, 2013 (5:45 pm)
I have a 2010 Insight with 99950 miles with full kit (Nav the works) and extended warranty and all service records and no scratches. I went to Pompano Honda to trade in against an Accord last night.... and Guess what? I discovered the error of my ways.
Its worth maybe $7,000 after paying $24,500 for it new.
Had I not listened to the Honda Sales Pitch I would have bought a Toyota Prius which with the same mileage would have been worth a LOT more. Perhaps Consumer reports might like to take a look at depreciation between the two?
I no longer drive the car in case the battery dies and BTW the fuel consumption has been between 35 and 37.5 MPG. Is it true Honda have been sued in a class action law suite for lies about fuel consumption claims?? Have I a case?
Better they be sued for a pretend Hybrid system that has a massive loss in value as a result. Any Lawyers reading? - Look at my records if you wish!
As we say in Ireland it has not got the power to "Pull the socks off of a dead man" and the only redeeming quality is I can drive it in the HOV lane!!!
Reliability was excellent but for a full assembly replacement of GPS - CD-Radio at 41,000 miles. Service department at Pompano Honda puts my Lexus Department to shame - They are excellent in all ways.
Silly me for buying one - All you happy owners .... Your time will come! - The car was rushed to the market and "Under Engineered" (Never saw so much painted metal since an Alfa in the 60's!) and you will pay the price in resale value.
#157 of 166 Re: 'real world' MPG [twarted]
Mar 21, 2013 (5:27 am)
I have a 2010 now with 91K on it, it has returned a lifetime average mileage of 52.4 mpg. I know Pompano Beach and if I drove there all the time I would have averaged well over 55 MPG. I know that because the car has spent most of its life on the roads of Massachusetts, and I typically get over 55 mpg every day running summer gas and in warmer temperatures even though I drive up and down multiple 1000 ft climbs daily (I work at close to sea level and live at 900 ft). By contrast, my home in Pompano is at 8 ft above sea level, and the only hill for miles is a landfill north of town. By the way, I drive on snow tires year round as well (needed this year with over 80 inches of snow).
So the point is Twarted, the driver is a key component and if you are getting 35 MPG I think you are responsible for that. You also seem to have a real agenda slamming Honda with the same cut and paste response to multiple posts on this site. Regarding the value of your car - it appears to be about $10500 to $11000 in Pompano, except that the expected miles should be < 40,000. Everyone reading this post knows the condition and miles on the odometer are the key factors in determining value. Your slanted rant appears not to have considered any of those factors. My car may not be the most comfortable, but it has performed very well in all conditions, required only routine maintenance consisting of basically oil changes every 11000 miles+, plus a set of tires. This car is utterly dependable and super green - that is what I wanted and that is why I love my Honda.
#158 of 166 Re: 'real world' MPG [twarted]
Mar 21, 2013 (10:47 am)
Apart from the resale value, what are your complaints about the Insight? Why did you want to trade it in?
#159 of 166 Actual Mileage vs. Display Mileage
Mar 21, 2013 (10:53 am)
I have had my 2010 Insight for 2.5 years and I have always compared the average trip mileage on the display with my calculated actual mileage (trip mileage / gallons of fuel). The actual mileage is ALWAYS 3 miles per gallon less than the display says it is. So, if the display says that my trip average was 40 mpg, I actually got 37mpg. Every time! Has any one else noticed this?
#160 of 166 Re: 'real world' MPG [twarted]
Mar 21, 2013 (5:52 pm)
Got a coupon from pompano Honda a couple years back for a $9.95 oil change/rotation so decided to drive in from Coral Springs to get it done. Was their first customer that morning, got there at 6:45 a m and they did a pretty decent job but tried to get me to purchase every service under the sun which I politely refused...a bit of overkill really. While there, I satin the Insight and thought it was horrible! The crappy dash from the Fit, uncomfortable drivers seat with a headrest canted too far forward and the split view out the back hatch was probably the worst I've ever seen in any vehicle...totally ridiculous! If going for this kind of technology, best to go wit Toyota or Ford as they've got it down pretty well, Honda...well, not as much. The exterior of the Insight isn't too bad but the rest...meh and not something I'd ever spend $ on. Really, besides the Accord, the rest of the Honda lineup is totally forgettable...totally forgettable!
#161 of 166 Re: Actual Mileage vs. Display Mileage [olivebliss]
Mar 23, 2013 (2:43 am)
I do a real mileage calculations with Excel spreadsheet with all my cars and you are correct. The real mpg is lower : I get 56.1 mpg on the display with 13,484 driving miles. My excel gives me the real mileage: 52.16 mpg (with 13,484)
I have a feeling that the display is helpful at telling you how to drive "ecologically" . I wonder if the Prius gives you also a falsely elevated mpg on the display?
Note: I get this good mileage but driving very conservatively.
#162 of 166 2000 Honda Insight Engine Cooling
Apr 04, 2013 (10:02 pm)
Engine And Engine Cooling: Engine
2000 Honda Insight
Where can I get more information on this?
I just changed the oil.
I changed the thermostat. The old one was very stiff.
I even run with the radiator fan constantly 'ON'.
I await any comments.
#163 of 166 Two cents worth
Jun 01, 2013 (6:45 pm)
About six weeks ago I bought a 2010 Honda Insight EX with 24k miles on it. It is factory certified and I paid 15,000 for it. I also looked at the Prius which I did like. Two reasons stopped me from getting it. The first is that the console runs high between the front seats. I am 6'2" and I hate my right leg being trapped in like that. In the insight my leg can/knee can hang out over the top of the low center console. The second was that for the same money I could only get a high mileage prius. Prius does have better resale...but my choice was based on keeping the car a long time...and a comfortable driving position. Real world mileage I believe is much the same. My "trip B" is at 1700 miles and reads 50.6. Which, like every car I have ever been in is actually 2-3 mpg less when doing the math. If I take back roads to work (23 mile trip) I can break 60 mpg (57 actual)...this is taking it easy with speed limits of 35-55. 50 is about what I can get on expressway...only going speed limits. I am not sure why but it seems people lie about their mpg as much as they do the size of a fish they caught. I go so far as to use the exact same gas pump so I can get as close as possible to a consistent fill...just when trying to figure actual mpg of course. I will take an HONEST 47 mpg any day. All that being said, give me 1.50 a gallon and a truck!
#164 of 166 Re: Two cents worth [brylo]
Jun 12, 2013 (8:52 am)
Good post -- but you don't have to go to the same pump to accurately calculate your gas mileage. Yes, the fill point on a fill-up will be slightly different each time, but this will average out. Your MPH per tank may be off, but your MPH over several tanks will be spot on. And that's the number you should be mostly paying attention to. Besides, the MPH per tank would only be off by 1 MPH at most due to pump fill-up differences.
Jul 01, 2013 (9:27 am)
A reporter is interested in talking with someone who bought a hybrid within the past year. If that describes you, please email PRedmunds.com no later than Wednesday, July 3, 2013 with the make, model, month of purchase and a few lines about your experience.