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Honda Insight, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Hatchback
#129 of 166 Re: 2010 Insight [kidsid]
Sep 03, 2011 (4:15 am)
I have a camry hybrid (2008) and an insight (2010) so I have lots of experience with both drive systems. Although the pure electric Toyota mode feels very cool (like when searching for street parking and circling the block using zero gas), even with the gas on all the time, the Honda gets amazing mileage. I find the Honda takes more practice to pull really high mileage, but that said it feels like the more you try, the more it delivers. To avg more then 40 mpg with the Toyota seems futile, whereas I am at 57.6 avg over the last 14000 miles and it feels like if I wanted to I could get even higher numbers. I have to agree with those who note the EPA numbers seem wrong - but it is wrong for both cars, so perhaps it is the hybrid driving style they don't properly apply that returns these results.
As a side note, I have been amused by the dialog between you and spunjorno. You seemed spot on in your technical analysis in your initial response about pure electric use to get highest mileage in the insight, but his empirical approach delivers better milage. I tried to test using assist more to get more mpgs, but found I got much less. The reason was I had to use more throttle to get more boost. Following his suggestions, most of which I actually learned from the "Shell answer man" in the 60's, gives the best mileage regardless of vehicle. The advantage the Honda has is it's coach shows instantaneous mileage vs avg very clearly so you can set easy to monitor goals.
#130 of 166 Re: 2010 Insight [as2010insight]
Sep 08, 2011 (12:56 pm)
I heard from the dealer that when the EPA testing is done ECON mode is not used. I do not believe that the ECON mode would have that much bearing on the fuel economy.
My note is that it really makes a difference driving 50-55 as opposed to 65-70. Economy drops from 57mpg to 46mpg.
#131 of 166 $20 worth of joules you forgot were in your pants pocket
Sep 15, 2011 (4:09 pm)
For understanding the hybrid 'psychology' of driving, seriously great analogy re the stored battery-energy being like a $5 you found in your pants pocket that you forgot was there. (but let's make it a $20, why not?)
#132 of 166 Real Honda Insight MPG
Nov 19, 2011 (11:06 pm)
So far so good with the mpg listing. I have the 2011 Honda Insight LX as a second commuter car. With the stock steel wheels and Dunlop Tires I was averaging about 38 overall with mix freeway and city.
I changed wheels and tires about 2000 miles ago to lighter alloy wheels by konig and put the bridgestone ecopia 422 tires on. Now I am getting 41.5 overall. On one mostly freeway trip to Vegas I got it up to 46.5 mpg. So unlike US brands (GMC) I think Honda really states the correct MPG's.
Great lower cost alternate to Prius, funner to drive, lighter, looks better, more front legroom (No weird Middle Console thing). But seats could be better quality.
Nov 20, 2011 (1:55 pm)
I found the front seat pretty uncomfortable for my bad spine and was not much more comfortable in the back seat on a small ride. The headrest was also canted a bit to forward which created immediate neck pain so unless they change the seats, this car is one I could never own. Also found the rear split hatch window difficult to see out of, not a deal breaker but didn't feel safe looking out the rear. A shame to because I really wanted to like this car and the stellar mpg's are just a bonus...I also did not want to get a Prius for the extra price plus the weird dash layout. So I'll keep on truckin' in my '06 Civic, which is still in great shape and tightly screwed together with nary a rattle or squeak...it does help that I am the sole driver of it 99% of the time. And besides my son coming home for a few days/year, that's the way it'll stay!
Just like you, I had changed out the stock steelies to a set of '05 SI alloys and am wondering if in fact my mpg's improved with that swap? I don't keep detailed mileage records so have no idea if this could be true...hopefully it has helped. The highway mileage ain't to bad but my city driving has been always around 30 from my quick computations...in specs to be sure but nothing to write home about but not worth it to trade for a few more mpg's.
Nov 22, 2011 (9:28 am)
Sandman, 30mph in city? You must drive pretty aggressively. I have 5,500 miles on my 2011 and have averaged 45 overall, almost all city. I do keep detailed records and what I calculate and what the car says is at least 2 mpg off. Car says almost 47 but that is high.
#135 of 166 Re: my mph [johnobvious]
Nov 22, 2011 (1:15 pm)
I have to agree - the computer showed my recent 15000 miles achieved 57.4 MPGs (I have about 60K on this 30 month old vehicle), I had to drive pretty conservatively to achieve that, but if I drive as aggressively as I can I don't see how I could average 30.
Nov 22, 2011 (6:12 pm)
No, hardly drive at all. My trips are usually under 10 miles with constant a/c usage. On the expressway, averaging 36 or so but stop and go city with a/c...30 or 31 tops. But not really a problem as I do a full tank every 3 to 4 weeks since October 2010. And now with season officially in full swing, traffic in South Florida will be that much worse resulting in longer traffic delays and worse mpg's for all. The price we pay for living in paradise!
#137 of 166 2010 Insight EX
Dec 15, 2011 (5:17 am)
Just throwing my hat into the ring... I have a 2010 Insight EX dealer demo model I bought in May of 2011. Started out with something like 10 miles on the odometer. Since then, I've racked up 11K miles, and my average is 44.0 MPG, at least according to the dash display. My commute is 35 miles each way, mostly on the highway, but maybe 7 miles on local roads. On days when I'm just cruising along with little traffic, I can get it up to 51 MPG, but short trips and stop and go traffic really kill the mileage, obviously. I drive with the Econ mode all the time, although according to Consumer Reports, it doesn't make much of a difference in mileage since drivers naturally fight the softer acceleration. Curious to see how much the MPG suffers now that winter's here in NY.
#138 of 166 Re: 2010 Insight EX [billintoo]
Dec 15, 2011 (1:08 pm)
Honestly, besides the great mileage, how do you really like the car as a daily driver? Does it put a smile on your face? I know my '06 Civic still does that even though I yearn for a 2004 to 2009 Lexus RX330...it's a blast to throw around when needed and it does everything right except having very uncomfortable front seats. I now look for seat comfort as I have some intense spinal issues and I need comfort first and foremost...the RX covers that area nicely and I'd happily pay the premium to own one and drive it. Just not ready to pull the trigger since my Civic has yet to break the 33k mark and it does everything else right, seems silly to trade it in as I know I won't get all that much for it. I'd love to get $10k and put that down on a $20k RX...if that would be the case, I'd sign right now!