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This is the first year that 10% ethanol blend is used in NJ. The mileage on my 04 FXT MT has never been worse. My winter average used to be 21+, it has now dropped to the 19.5-20.5 range. I never got below 20 until now. I normally attribute winter conditions to a 5% MPG drop compared to summer driving. This year, it's 10% - 5% due to colder temps, and another 5% due to ethanol. This makes sense as ethanol makes up 10% by volume and has slightly over 1/2 the energy content of gasoline. The governement has found yet another way to screw the consumer - our taxes are paying for ethanol subsidies AND we pay more at the pump due to lower MPG. Life is grand... |
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Replying to: samiam_68 (Feb 22, 2007 9:45 am) -juice
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Replying to: samiam_68 (Feb 22, 2007 9:45 am) Cold weather affects my subie the most. Global warming has hit this year big time. Most years my mpg goes from 27 summer to 23ish winter. This year it has been 25mpg. Except for 2 weeks when it was near zero everyday. Then it was 24mpg. Perhaps Ethanol and cold weather has a bigger effect? I have changed to Shell gas this year due to my work office moving. Maybe the "Tier 1" gas that GM and Toyota recomends is better? ethanol or not? --jay
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Replying to: jay_24 (Feb 23, 2007 6:02 am) Come to think of it, that's not nearly enough to cause the drop I've seen, so I'm sure it's the cold weather we've had lately. -juice |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 22, 2007 11:04 am) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline Also since ethanol is an octane booster it ought to allow the fuel producer to dispense with other octane boosters and save on costs. Of course, ethanol is expensive to produce and is subsidized. Also it is more expensive to transport since at present 10% ethanol fuel cannot be transported by pipeline. As I understand it the gasoline base is shipped by pipeline and the pure ethanol is shipped by tanker truck. The two are mixed at the wholesale distribution point.
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Replying to: jim314 (Feb 23, 2007 7:46 am) -juice |
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I purchased the above manual transmission Forester almost 11 months ago. It currently has 12,000 miles. Combined driving (approx. 50% in town and 50% highway) is right around 27 mpg (non-ethanol gasoline). Highway mileage is 30 mpg. Since much of my driving is short trips, the 27 mpg is a pleasant surprise. I thought highway mileage might be a bid higher, but I tend to drive 70 mph. I need to do some testing at 65 mph to see if there is a significant difference. Compared to other vehicles in its class, the Forester 2.5 gets good gasoline mileage and it's a solid little car to boot!
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Replying to: philj5 (May 29, 2007 6:15 am) Not bad for pulling a trailer these days... Oh, I have an 07 Premium Package MT. This does compare to my 04 X where I averaged 21 mpg on the same trip twice. They changed the torque power ratios and not for the better in 06.
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Replying to: kavoom (May 30, 2007 3:52 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 31, 2007 6:02 am) 07 Forester, 2.5X, auto, 240 miles
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