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Subaru Forester MPG-Real World Numbers

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Re: Good input [buckhuntr] by phil53
Aug 09, 2008 (5:52 am)
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Replying to: buckhuntr (Aug 07, 2008 3:22 pm)

OK - well, I'm in the KC area, so I'm assuming not a great deal of difference in driving conditions. We're going down to drive an '09 Limited today. 20 does bother me, though. I'm currently getting 40 - 42 average with my wife's TDI. So that will be a big difference, if that's average around the city. I was hoping for 25 or better. I've talked to a couple of people who indicated 25 - 28 was their average. But I didn't get into their driving style too much. My Avalanche gets 14 -15 in town and 17 - 18 on the highway. So I was looking for a big improvement over that, too. Thanks.
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Re: Good input [phil53] by p0926
Aug 09, 2008 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: phil53 (Aug 09, 2008 5:52 am)

You're going to be hard pressed to find any small SUV/crossover that gets close to 25 mpg in the city. Heck most don't even get that on the hwy. The Forester is one of the more fuel effecient models in its class but if fuel economy is a top priority, I'd be looking at hybrids or small sedans.
 
-Frank
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2000 Forester 5sp manual by hamuller
Aug 11, 2008 (6:57 am)
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I love my Forester and have had it for over eight years now. When it was new I regularly got 28-30 MPG on a 200 mile highway trip to my mountain cabin. Over the years the mpg has declined steadily. I now get about 25-26mpg on the same trip. I maintain my car with a tuneup every 25K and an oil change every 3K religiously. I just had the timing belt changed. Is there any reason beyond old age for the car's mpg to be dropping? It now has 105K on it.
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Re: 2000 Forester 5sp manual [hamuller] by jim314
Aug 11, 2008 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: hamuller (Aug 11, 2008 6:57 am)

Theoretical possibilities:
 
Tires: You changed to tires with a higher rolling resistance, or don't inflate them to as high as pressure as before. But you may want tires that can handle rough roads and will have to compromise on rolling resistance. Are you still using the OE tire size?
 
Oil: You are using an oil with a higher viscosity than needed. With modern oils, changing oil at 3 kmi is an unnecessarily short interval, unless you are frequently in very dusty conditions. Use synthetic of the right viscosity (check the manual) and change at 7.5 kmi at the shortest.
 
Fuel: Ethanol in gasoline up to 10% could cause a 3% lower mpg which is 0.8 mpg less starting at 28 mpg.
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Re: 2000 Forester 5sp manual [jim314] by hamuller
Aug 11, 2008 (8:38 am)
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Replying to: jim314 (Aug 11, 2008 7:53 am)

Thanks for the possibilities. I have put on a heftier Goodrich tire but it is the same size as the original tires which gave a smoother ride as I remember. I wil try dropping the pressure by a few pounds and see if that helps.
 
I don't drive in dusty conditions usually so I think I will extend my oil changes a little and try the synthetic oils next time.
 
I never thought about ethanol but most of the gas I use does have 10% ethanol. That probably has something to do with it.
 
I also change the air filter every 10K as recommended.
 
Thanks again for the suggestions. Hank
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Re: 2000 Forester 5sp manual [hamuller] by p0926
Aug 11, 2008 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: hamuller (Aug 11, 2008 8:38 am)

I have put on a heftier Goodrich tire but it is the same size as the original tires which gave a smoother ride as I remember
 
Even tires that are the same size can reduce your mpg. Especially if they're are more performance oriented.
 
I wil try dropping the pressure by a few pounds and see if that helps
 
That will make your mpg worse! Increasing the air pressure in your tires will improve your mpg. However, if you increase it too much, you'll compromise the vehicle's handling. On my aftermarket tires, I keep the pressure about halfway between what the manufacturer recommends for the OE tires and the max psi listed on the sidewall.
 
-Frank
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Re: 2000 Forester 5sp manual [p0926] by hamuller
Aug 11, 2008 (6:39 pm)
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Replying to: p0926 (Aug 11, 2008 3:29 pm)

Thanks I will try your suggestion. Hank
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Re: Good input [p0926] by phil53
Aug 12, 2008 (4:18 pm)
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Replying to: p0926 (Aug 09, 2008 9:09 am)

Well, you may be right. I guess I'm just trying to make sure I get the vehicle that best meets my needs overall and, unfortunately, that just doesn't exist right now. We have looked at a couple of mid-size sedans that get pretty good fuel mileage (30+ mpg highway), but my wife wanted 4WD or AWD for the snow. Plus, I figured if I went with a small SUV, I could park my Avalanche about 90% of the time - or more.
The thing is, I get 17 - 18 mpg highway with the Avalanche no matter how loaded down it is. And I figure, if I added dual exhaust, a cold air intake and an E-Con programmer, I could probably improve that by a couple mpg and improve performance.
So, from what I'm reading here, I'll pay quite a fuel mileage penalty stepping down from the Beetle TDI and won't gain that much by parking the Avalanche. I was just hoping I could routinely return 25 mpg+.
Thanks for the input.
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Re: Good input [phil53] by buckhuntr
Aug 12, 2008 (5:51 pm)
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Replying to: phil53 (Aug 12, 2008 4:18 pm)

Part of the reason my '09X is averaging 20.4 in town is that I drive it 10-13 miles each way through Tulsa to get to work (miles are more if I'm carpooling with my wife). City of Tulsa can't seem to do a very good job of synchronizing the traffic lights, and this morning I had to stop for 8 lights in a 10-block stretch. That is hell on mpgs for all but the top hybrids. Also, when my wife drives the Foz, she can decrease the mpgs due to her driving habits! LOL
As I've said before, this still beats the city mileage I get out of the F150, or what I got out of the cursed Dodge Intrepid (whose untimely demise led directly to my purchasing the Forester a month ago).
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Re: Good input [buckhuntr] by ateixeira
Aug 13, 2008 (6:17 am)
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Replying to: buckhuntr (Aug 12, 2008 5:51 pm)

Short drives like that won't ever yield good mileage, because the engine is still warming up for the first 2-3 miles, and not operating at its peak efficiency.

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