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Re: Catalytic Converter skid plate installed backwards at factory [flytedhy]
by targettuning
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May 22, 2006 (5:53 am)
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Replying to: flytedhy (May 19, 2006 8:07 pm)
OK.. so "there is no random choice of quality" but there is a cost per unit verses "how good do you want this thing?" issue and every manufacturer faces it. Since there is only you trying to prove how bad Hyundai is, me, defending Hyundai again, and one other guy here nobody else seems to feel it is worth worrying about so I guess it isn't really that big an issue. It absolutely stands to reason though the more you expect to sell the car for the more can be expended in details...lambs wool carpet...hides from 1 year old, indoor raised Alpacas for the seats etc. So I expect Hyundai had a price per unit for each radio in mind at the 19-22K (or whatever it is exactly)price point. Some persons here may actually have an individual radio that IS faulty and those will be replaced as required. Regarding line loss Geez how many manufacturers mount their antenna on the rear fender..rear glass...a rubber stick on the roof? A longish antenna lead isn't a real issue however especially when an amplifier, such as Hyundai uses, is installed after the antenna...before the radio. And yeah, I can defend it until you can absolutely prove Hyundai utilizes poorer quality components..designs...specifications...and a choice of a company to subcontract these out to that has poor quality control on a consistant basis. Probably no better or worse in these regards than any other auto manufacturer. The end!
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- #24 of 51
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Re: What difference does the radio make? [mikdee]
by targettuning
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May 22, 2006 (6:08 am)
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Replying to: mikdee (May 20, 2006 5:09 am)
As stated I also had Santa FE's two (2) to be exact. I had a 2002 AWD 2.7 liter(4 speed auto) and a 2003 AWD 3.5 liter(5 speed auto). I can, for once, agree with flytedhy. The 3.5 actually got better highway (not city though) mileage 24 verses 22MPG. This was, I believe, due to two things. At any given road speed the 5 speed 3.5 liter ran at more than 500 RPM slower. This translated into better fuel economy. Second, the 3.5 simply had much more torque and almost never downshifted on hills and grades that had the 2.7 in 3rd gear. I find that the Tucson gets about the same mileage as the 2002 2.7 liter Santa Fe. Also, the Tucson isn't all that much lighter nor is it physically much smaller. It is an optical illusion that the Tucson is a lot smaller. Cargo space was sacrificed for passenger space on the Tucson and it(passenger space) is actually larger than the Santa Fe as measured in Cubic feet.
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- #25 of 51
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Re: Catalytic Converter skid plate installed backwards at factory [targettuning]
by flytedhy
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May 23, 2006 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: targettuning (May 22, 2006 5:53 am)
Hyundai DOES NOT use an antenna amplifier on the Tucson like you mentioned, that is incorrect. So you can defend Hyundai all day, thats obvious, you just can't seem to get the facts correct, thats obvious also. Since I'm qualified to talk about these vehicles in technical terms, it may be best for you to have discussions with others who enjoy more general non-technical issues. No offense meant, were just talking on two levels of knowledge here.
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- #27 of 51
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Re: Catalytic Converter skid plate installed backwards at factory [flytedhy]
by targettuning
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May 30, 2006 (8:11 am)
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Replying to: flytedhy (May 23, 2006 10:21 am)
It is a fact that several other model Hyundai's do/did use an amplifier... both of my Santa Fe's had them. In mid year 2004 Hyundai eliminated the "in the rear side glass" antenna in favor of a stubby rubber stick on the roof. Maybe ( you can probably confirm this) they also eliminated the amplifier at that time. The Tucson also has that rubber stick antenna so I guess if Hyundai eliminated the amp with possible better reception using the rubber stick then it does not have one. Go ahead use technical terms, I'll keep up. Note to host.. is this OK?
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- #28 of 51
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Re: Catalytic Converter skid plate installed backwards at factory [targettuning]
by richtex
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Jun 04, 2006 (6:53 pm)
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Replying to: targettuning (May 30, 2006 8:11 am)
Just brought home a new Tucson Limited last Saturday. We are enjoying all the bells & whistles. On the antenna/amplifier issue, there IS an amp in the back under the cargo area, but I believe it is a stereo amp (for sound) and not an amplifier to boost the signal coming from the antenna. I think the sound quality is very good; the equalizer pre-sets (Classic, Jazz, Rock) are not that great to my ear but once you adjust the sound yourself using the treble/midrange/bass, it sounds good. 
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Re: Equalizer, & Amp
by mikdee
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Jun 05, 2006 (3:36 am)
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Replying to: richtex (Jun 04, 2006 6:53 pm)
I found the sound to be better without using the equalizer, deeper bass. By the way, you have to train it to use the EQ settings, sometimes if you put a CD in, or change the radio station, the EQ setting won't pop up, you have to set it, but once you do, it will automatically remember that setting for that CD, or station. Yes, the amp in the back gives it the Oomph! something the Santa Fe never had,,, lol
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Re: Catalytic Converter skid plate installed backwards at factory [targettuning]
by nakeydog
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Jun 07, 2006 (8:16 am)
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Replying to: targettuning (May 30, 2006 8:11 am)
The Hyndai Tucson 2005 has an amplifier it is in the trunk underneath the spare tire area.
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- #31 of 51
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Re: Catalytic Converter skid plate installed backwards at factory [nakeydog]
by targettuning
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Jun 07, 2006 (9:26 am)
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Replying to: nakeydog (Jun 07, 2006 8:16 am)
Be advised that there may be potentially 2 (two) types of amplifiers...it can either be a signal amp. designed to boost AM/FM signals from the antenna before reaching the radio where they are further amplified. This normally boosts weak signals into a useable strength. The result of this is the radio may find and keep distant or low power stations better and longer. The second type, as noted, is an amp. for the sub-woofer in the premium sound package. It powers the sub woofer. You can have one or the other or both. All good except Hyundai has, according to Garp, eliminated the antenna amp. so therefore their sound systems are sub-standard i.e. poorly designed
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- #32 of 51
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Re: Catalytic Converter skid plate installed backwards at factory [targettuning]
by nakeydog
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Jun 10, 2006 (5:15 pm)
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Replying to: targettuning (Jun 07, 2006 9:26 am)
So then the amp is actually for the subwoofer? All I know is that at 2 weeks I changed the speakers, they were horrible! I have a 6 CD changer, cassette, AM/FM Radio and I guess it could be better but it is acceptable. But the speakers that came with the LX which is the most expensive Tucson should have been better.
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