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Sedans Audi A8 Audi A8: Lease Questions
116 messages, Last post on Sep 15, 2009 at 3:42 PM
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Replying to: Car_man (Sep 13, 2006 2:56 am) |
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Replying to: mikespopworld (Sep 17, 2006 10:21 am) |
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Replying to: mikespopworld (Sep 17, 2006 10:21 am) It is such a great car - I don't understand why they depreciate so fast. It's crazy.
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Looking to lease a 2004 A8L. what kind of terms should I expect to get on a 36mo or 48mo lease as far as residuals and money factors? car is a CPO in good condition with approx 17k mi and hoping to pay no more than $45k or so. Might consider putting $1-2k down. Any help appreciated carman. thanks Stick
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Replying to: e350v10 (Oct 31, 2006 7:34 pm) |
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Replying to: stickgs (Dec 04, 2006 10:47 am) Car_man Host Prices Paid Forum
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Replying to: Car_man (Jan 02, 2007 2:46 am)
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Replying to: e350v10 (Oct 31, 2006 7:34 pm) I also rented the new Mercedes 2007 S550 and it was like a Chrysler! And about $130k with lots of options. I have owned three S Class Mercedes since 2000 and they were great. But this new 2007 was crap!
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Replying to: iamtheid (Jan 06, 2007 3:48 pm) Can I ask you the specifics on your S8 lease deal. I've leased many cars and have never walked away on the plus side. I've just turned the car in and paid for any excess mileage. Thanks |
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I always lease because of the huge deduction on my company or myself, personally. I can write off 100% of the payment, the insurance, the gas, etc. I do have several cars but always treat the Audi as my "business car". That being said, I helped the dealership that sold me my A8L by selling another 40 cars to other friends of mine, albeit A4 Turbo's, A6's, and about another 8 or so A8L's and two A8-W12's, and only dealt with the Fleet/Internet manager. He got me the car fully loaded, except for only the solar sunroof, but threw in the Auto-Armor, the 4-year unlimited tire/wheel replacement package, one-year of prepaid OnStar, the $399 a year package, which was the last year that Audi included that on any Audi - and that saved me about $7.5k. Then he took $8k off the MSRP of the car. So after putting the $10k down, I sold the 48-month lease car as if I had financed it. I used to import European cars in the mid-1980's before all of that ended, so I am familiar with hundreds of Euro cars. I also entered the market when leasing was one year away. Now, I leverage that, keep low miles on the Audi, and get a lot of money back, because I never and WOULD NEVER turn a lease car back in. I usually do a 42-48 month lease, depending on the car, it's residual, etc. But my 2005 A8L had a residual, after 48 months, of almost $49k. So, I sold it two years early and pocketed between $13k and $14k. Never turn in your leased car and get rid of it early. A four year lease usually breaks even, if you purchased (leased) the car at a good price, at between 24-30 months. So, I walked away with that money and then got almost the same freebies, although this time the tire/wheel warranty is illegal to sell in CA, there is NO ONSTAR anymore which I hate, but he threw in the auto-armor, Lo-Jack, and XM Satellite Radio, and reduced the MSRP by $3.5k. Most people cannot get a penny off MSRP, but I got that because I send the dealership a lot of business, albeit not 40 cars in a year anymore, but at least 10-15 finances, cash purchases, and leases. I called Beverly Hills Porsche Audi just to confirm that I had a great deal, and they quoted me $5400 drive-off on a 48-month lease with payments of around $2450 w/tax. But that did not include XM, or the auto-armor, or free Lo-Jack. So, the payment would've most likely been at least $90 higher. The car had a sticker of about $112995 without ANY satellite radio, I hate Sirius, and they all come with that, and it's total crap, so the car is already pre-wired for any kind of satellite radio, so he got me a new XM Radio, with 90 days free so I can continue my family plan. I have four cars with XM and a portable unit as well. So, I know the car will hold much more of it's value than what they are estimating - which is basically slightly less than my 2005 A8L at close to $88k, with a residual close to $49k. They are saying that this car will only be worth in the low $40's in four years. But because 2009 brings about the new RS8 with the 604HP engine, making it 0-62 in about 3.5 seconds, I am willing to gamble. Plus the A8 series is being completely re-designed for 2009. I will order a 2009 RS8, most likely closer to $160k, because of the ceramic brakes and other features they will start to offer in 2008 and 2009, and the re-design of the car, and I bet I will get close to $85k for my car in 18 months. Because it's going, and I ordered a unique S8 color and interior, and because the car is just plain gorgeous. Hope that helps. Never turn in a lease and sell it early until the lease "break-even" point. This is the best time to sell a leased car and pay it off as if it is a finance. I have been doing this since the late 1980's, and I always get a good chunk of money back, even on BMW's, and especially on the BMW M cars, and Porsche 911's! Good luck. Brian
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