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Audi A3: Prices Paid & Buying Experiences

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Re: Decent price on an '09? [LilGreen] by sbarbossa
Aug 06, 2009 (5:26 pm)
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Replying to: LilGreen (Jun 27, 2009 5:25 pm)

I'm also looking at a new '09 and I'm curious too.
 
09 Ibis white with black interior
2.0 quattro
Open sky
Cold weather package
Convenience package
Premium package
 
MSRP: $36225
Offer: $34,654 out the door, tax (7%) and all additional fees included
 
Again, is this a good deal?
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Re: Decent price on an '09? [sbarbossa] by JLaw012
Aug 08, 2009 (4:16 pm)
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Replying to: sbarbossa (Aug 06, 2009 5:26 pm)

No, its not a good deal. For one thing you should NEVER negotiate MSRP, it is a made up number and has zero to do with the price of the car to the dealer. my suggestion is go online to Consumer Reports, you can pay a small fee and can they will send you the actual price of the car to the dealer, THAT is the price you should negotiate. it also gives you tips on negotiating and dealer tactics. it was very helpful when i bought a new 2008.
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Re: Bought new 2008 A3 2.0T for $22,700 in MA [maxbos] by rhyflare
Aug 09, 2009 (1:28 am)
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Replying to: maxbos (Aug 25, 2008 10:46 am)

How long did it take you to get that price? Its OTD right?
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Re: Decent price on an '09? [JLaw012] by sbarbossa
Aug 09, 2009 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: JLaw012 (Aug 08, 2009 4:16 pm)

I did indeed get all of the information from Consumer Reports regarding the A3. CR (which I'm sure you know) gives a, "Bottom Line Price" and you're supposed to add dealer invoice for packages and options. They say that 1-5% over that price is reasonable.
 
Therefore, the MSRP on the vehicle is $36,225
The dealer invoice (according to CR) is $33,751
CRs "Bottom Line Price" that they say to work from is $31,251 and the deal I'm looking at is $31,751, less than 2% above the best CR says that I can do for the vehicle.
 
Of course, tax and motor vehicle fees are extra, but you can't get out of that....
 
The information from Consumer Reports proved invaluable in knowing what was reasonable to expect.
 
I feel like I did okay but was wondering if I ahould have pushed for a better price with 2010s coming out.
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Re: Decent price on an '09? [sbarbossa] by JLaw012
Aug 09, 2009 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: sbarbossa (Aug 09, 2009 8:09 am)

I would think you could of gotten a better deal with the 2010 coming out, that is how i got a good deal on my 2008, i got it when the 2009's were coming out and i got a manual lava gray open sky premium package leather for 25,000 + tax, all fee's included. I know your getting the cold package on top of it but besides the fender i don't think there is much of a difference from the 08 and 09's. Anyway, i have had my car for 1 year now and have 9500 miles on it, no mechanical problems but watch the rails on your open sky, one on my car popped up and i took it to the deal and they added more "clips to the rail and 3 months later it popped up again so they replaced the whole rail with more clips. I have heard that this is a problem with the open sky.
 
I have not had this problem yet but CR said there can be brake problems and Audio problems. And i also heard the open sky shade system will stop clipping when you try to shut it. Anyway, so far i really love the car it is really fun to drive hope you enjoy yours. Cheers.
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Re: Decent price on an '09? [JLaw012] by elias
Aug 09, 2009 (11:59 am)
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Replying to: JLaw012 (Aug 08, 2009 4:16 pm)

jlaw one aspect of your post is incorrect. In fact, nobody can legitimately provide you the actual price of the car to the dealer - that info is private contractual information.
So perhaps you are unaware that the invoice price is a 'made up number' just like MSRP.
But of course, 'invoice' is a better baseline to use when negotiating a new car price from consumer viewpoint.
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Audi A-3 TDI by bostonfred
Nov 16, 2009 (7:47 am)
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Does anyone have information on prices paid for an A-3 TDI? I am looking at an A-3 Premium automatic with the convenience and cold-weather package. Any information would be appreciated!
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Re: Decent price on an '09? [elias] by JLaw012
Nov 16, 2009 (7:33 pm)
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Replying to: elias (Aug 09, 2009 11:59 am)

Of course i am aware that the invoice and MSRP is an irrelevant and made up price of the car,Consumer reports has the typical prices dealerships pay for the cars which is the price you should be negotiating.
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Re: Decent price on an '09? [JLaw012] by elias
Nov 17, 2009 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: JLaw012 (Nov 16, 2009 7:33 pm)

Consumer reports doesn't know the price the dealerships pay for new cars either; they too have no way to know private contractual information.
 
Also to be clear, i don't consider msrp/invoice prices to be irrelevant - each is a good reference point to consider, along with the possibility that the dealer is paying thousands below "invoice price" to the manufacturer.
Sometimes the dealer-to-manufacturer price is called the "dealer memo price".
 
Anyway, it is good that you are an educated consumer, Johnny Law! Cheers...
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Re: Decent price on an '09? [elias] by JLaw012
Nov 17, 2009 (6:39 pm)
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Replying to: elias (Nov 17, 2009 12:42 pm)

Consumer Reports offers a Bottom Line — the price where you should start negotiating (including current national rebates, unadvertised dealer incentives, and holdbacks).
Dealer Invoice Price (provided by the manufacturer to the dealer).
Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) — what the dealer wants you to pay.
Invoice and MSRP Prices for all factory-installed options & packages.

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