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#9949 of 10007 2010 mb e class by mltsurger Sep 20, 2009 (3:57 am)
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#9950 of 10007 Re: 2010 E class [walounk] by finadv Sep 21, 2009 (4:30 am)
Replying to: walounk (Sep 15, 2009 8:08 am) Good Luck. A true luxury car with all black circles on reliability per Consumer Reports. Hopefully your experiences will be better than what the masses are reporting. Go on their forum and read the horror stories. They even have a discussion titled "My E-Class is a lemon." Replies to this message: aeggroup (Sep 21, 2009 7:10 am) walounk (Sep 21, 2009 9:57 am) jensad (Sep 21, 2009 10:09 am) carolinabob (Sep 21, 2009 10:16 am) bocatrip (Sep 21, 2009 1:51 pm) and 1 more... james27 (Sep 21, 2009 4:54 pm)
#9951 of 10007 Re: 2010 E class [finadv] by aeggroup Sep 21, 2009 (7:10 am)
Replying to: finadv (Sep 21, 2009 4:30 am) Chill out guys. It's just a car..and by the way...good one. I test drove lexus, Infinity and Acura and nothing comes even close to MB or BMW....but..it's a matter of taste. I'm not saying get out from here if you drive Lexus . You sound like a child....silly child...
#9952 of 10007 Re: 2010 E class [finadv] by walounk Sep 21, 2009 (9:57 am)
Replying to: finadv (Sep 21, 2009 4:30 am) Consumer reports gave the M the highest score and that was one of the main reasons that made me buy the car, and then I had all kinds of problems with it,  I am not saying that the M is a bad car but it is not the right car for me and honestly I don't miss it.maybe I was not so lucky but my experience with Infiniti was not that good. Replies to this message: jensad (Sep 21, 2009 10:09 am) carolinabob (Sep 21, 2009 10:16 am) bocatrip (Sep 21, 2009 1:51 pm) lexusguy (Sep 21, 2009 10:06 pm) james27 (Sep 21, 2009 4:54 pm)
#9953 of 10007 Re: 2010 E class [walounk] by jensad Sep 21, 2009 (10:09 am)
Replying to: walounk (Sep 21, 2009 9:57 am) Maybe "M" stands for misery and/or "M" stands for magnificant. It alwasy boils down to personal choice. I drive a Acura RL- tech, and I am most happy with it. And to me that is all that counts.   Good luck to all and stay safe.   jensad
#9954 of 10007 Re: 2010 E class [walounk] by carolinabob Sep 21, 2009 (10:16 am)
Replying to: walounk (Sep 21, 2009 9:57 am) April 2009 Consumer Reports recommends the E350 based on much improved reliability reports. E class '03-'08: 96 rated systems with 8 all black ones and 9 half black ones. While this is not good, it ain't that bad either. There are many, many more all red and half red circles as well. '08 had two half blacks only.     Also, CR recommended the E350 along with the M35, Audi A6 and BMW 535i as good midsized luxury cars.     BTW, April issue is the basis for all of their quarterly issues for the most part.      In points, the E350 essentially scores second to M35 in its class and above 10 other cars. They rate two M's and two E350's.     Should reliability be better than this. You bet.     If you think you see lots of complaints on MB Forum, check out the Hyundai Azera and Genesis forums, as well as some others.    BTW, CR is not all that accurate anyway due to the demographics of their subscribers, the inaccuracies of their surveying and the small sample for some models. I know, I am a member and for last two years had to ask them to send me the darn survey.     Which brings up the question, if MB, BMW, et. al. are so bad and CR is so accurate, why do their members buy the cars?     BTW I have looked real hard at the M and test driven three of them and evern with good offers, just don't like the car. Feel squeezed in, noisy and doesn't ride that well. Replies to this message: bocatrip (Sep 21, 2009 1:51 pm) lexusguy (Sep 21, 2009 10:06 pm) james27 (Sep 21, 2009 4:54 pm)
#9955 of 10007 Re: 2010 E class [carolinabob] by bocatrip Sep 21, 2009 (1:51 pm)
Replying to: carolinabob (Sep 21, 2009 10:16 am) The E class has always been the work horse of the Benz line. Stray from that model either up or down, and quality control issues galore arise. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Sep 21, 2009 10:06 pm)
#9956 of 10007 Re: 2010 E class [carolinabob] by james27 Sep 21, 2009 (4:54 pm)
Replying to: carolinabob (Sep 21, 2009 10:16 am) I don't particularly like my M, and spent nearly $1k on soundproofing to make it less stressful on a long drive on the interstate (which helped, but it still isn't as quiet as the previous A6), but it was the only car I had enough headroom in. I looked at the MB new E-class, and it is too tight. Now, if I was bald, it wouldn't be a problem! Well, I don't like having to duck to see under the mirror or see a traffic light if you are first in line, but you get used to it after awhile. After a month of thinking about it, Mercedes US decided they wouldn't build one without a sunroof for me like they do in nearly any other country in the world. WIthout the sunroof, headroom goes from 37.9" to 41.3". I think if more people realized how much more open the car feels when you have more headroom, even if you don't really need it, they wouldn't covet the sunroof, what with the loss, and the extra weight high up and the $1K or more it costs (better spent on other, neater gagets!). Insurance costs are lower without a piece of glass in the roof, and it has to be stronger without it, too.
#9957 of 10007 Re: 2010 E class [bocatrip] by lexusguy Sep 21, 2009 (10:06 pm)
Replying to: bocatrip (Sep 21, 2009 1:51 pm) The E class has always been the work horse of the Benz line. Stray from that model either up or down, and quality control issues galore arise.   Not necessarily. The E class was one of the first to get MB's electronic brake system, which they later had to remove because it was so unreliable. All Mercedes models were terrible from around 2000-2006 or so, E class included. They are supposed to be better now.
#9958 of 10007 Re: A4 it is [draz2] by maximafan Sep 27, 2009 (4:35 pm)
Replying to: draz2 (May 01, 2009 7:08 pm) That seems strange to me. Here in Tampa, Florida, on the road, I see G37 sedans two to one versus the current Acura TL. I hardly have seen the current TL on the road much around Tampa.

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