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Cadillac CTS, Cadillac CTS-V, Sedan
#5856 of 6595 Re: Rear End Howl [golfnut5]
Oct 19, 2004 (10:16 pm)
Sorry to say, but they have not fioxed the rear differential whine on the 2005's. People with 2005 CTS's are still complaining about the problem. My 2004 Blue chip lux/sport CTS developed the whine at about 3,000 miles. It happened with my foot lightly on the gas between 25 and 35 mph. I also noticed a louder grinding noise coming from the rear end while turning corners at the same speeds and conditions.
I picked up my new CTS on 3/31/04 and spent over two months and many trips to two different dealers to get all of the rattles taken care of. Once that was done, I had about a month to drive the car defect free until the rear differential whine started. I just said screw it at that point and started shopping for a different car. I traded it in on a new Lexus 3 weeks ago. The Lexus has had no rattles or noises at all, and zero problems.
Cadillac has known about these problems for two years, and instead of doing somthing to fix it, they just keep churning out defective ones. It makes no sense to me at all why they would do that. It costs them customers, me for one.
Oct 20, 2004 (12:45 pm)
Someone should send GM a letter or something. They are shooting themselves in the foot again...
#5858 of 6595 Re: Rear End Howl [scott1]
Oct 20, 2004 (5:24 pm)
Your first paragraph sums up what I have experienced in my 2003 CTS including the grinding noise which was disturbing to say the least. I have also had problems with rattles which my Caddy dealer did take care of. I have a hard time duplicating the differential whine with my Caddy dealer because my CTS needs to be driven for approx. thirty minutes before the whine appears. You also need to be on a proper stretch of road where you can apply light acceleration between speeds of 35 to 50 MPH. I can tell my Caddy dealer is really not interested in solving the whine problem and my warranty will be expiring soon. I am convinced that GM is aware of this problem and either has no fix or just doesn't care. I must add that with the exception of the whine problem I really like my CTS and think it is fun to drive, love the handling and peppy engine. I also think the transmission (my is auto) is a great trans. I plan to trade cars next spring, I usually trade every two years as I put many miles on a car in my work. I am not sure at this time what I am going to do. Good luck with your Lexus.
#5859 of 6595 Re: That is horrible [exalteddragon1]
Oct 20, 2004 (10:00 pm)
"Someone should send GM a letter or something. They are shooting themselves in the foot again... "
Yea, that is on my list of things to do. All car makers experience problems with their vehicles from time to time, its how the manufacturer reacts to those problems that shows the differences between them.
Lexus had some problems with a drive line thump in some early production GX470's, which is the one I replaced the CTS with. They instituted running changes on the production line to fix the problem on later builds. My 2004 Lexus GX470 is coded as a "9700G" build. They started the model year with "9700a", so there have been enough improvements during the model year to have 6 differnt build designations.
Cadillac doesn't do that,they just keep churning out the defective ones, even when they know there is a problem. That's a whole different corporate culture between Lexus and Cadillac.
#5860 of 6595 Re: Rear End Howl [golfnut5]
Oct 20, 2004 (10:09 pm)
Thanks, I have about 500 miles on the Lexus so far, and not one rattle or anything at all has gone wrong with it.
I agree with you that the CTS is a fun car to drive when it's working right. The rattles drove me crazy the first two months, and my dealer's service manager told me "it would take too long for us to track them down, just live with it". I talked to the General Manager of the dealership, and he seemed helpful and said he would check into it and call me the next day. He never called. After the Cadillac help line gave lots of sympathy, and absolutely no help (they should be renamed the Cadillac sympathy line), I tried another Cadillac dealer and found one that was great to work with and knew how to fix Cadillacs.
Ater experienceing all the problems getting sonething as obvious as dashboard rattles fixed, I had no wish to go through the aggrevation of trying to get them to fix the whine. If they even have a fix for it.
The 3.6 L engine and that 5 speed Hydramatic transmission were exceptionally nice though, fully world class.
BTW, credit where credit is due. The really bad Cadillac dealer that I bought my CTS from, and who had no interest in fixing all the rattles was... RUSS DARROW CADILLAC in Waukesha, Wisconsin.
The MUCH better dealer who was great to work with and fixed the rattles was .. CREST CADILLAC in Brookfield, Wisconsin.
Oct 22, 2004 (7:15 am)
Just hit 10,000 trouble free miles on my '04 Lux.
The VP of Operations got his 525 <previous body> about 2 months before I got my CTS. He keeps challenging me to a race, but backs down whenever I respond with:
"Good thing I just had the back end of the car washed for you to see it"
"Are you comfortable with the idea that a Cadillac will beat your 'Ultimate Driving Machine'?"
#5865 of 6595 Re: [Robberbarron]
Oct 22, 2004 (7:41 am)
Challenging your CTS with a 525 would be like bringing a knife to a gunfight.... or being a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest.