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#3405 of 6595 CTS, Caddies to be built in China
Jun 11, 2003 (3:36 pm)
They should call this article: China to become next super power because the U.S. will eventually lose its manufacturing base
GM to sell, may manufacture, Cadillacs in China
Reuters, 06.11.03, 4:28 PM EST
By Michael Ellis
DETROIT (Reuters) - General Motors Corp. will export its Cadillac CTS to China within a year, and if sales are favorable the automaker could begin manufacturing the luxury sedan there, a senior GM executive said Wednesday.
"We're going to launch the car and see how volume progresses," Fritz Henderson, president of GM Asia-Pacific, told Reuters before a presentation to reporters.
Henderson noted that German luxury automaker BMW AG will begin manufacturing cars in China later this year, and he said there has been speculation that DaimlerChrysler AG could also assemble Mercedes vehicles there.
"I wouldn't rule it out," he added when asked about local production of Cadillacs.
He said he expected initial sales for the CTS to run at an annual rate of around 1,000.
China is one of the few overseas markets where GM plans to sell a number of different brands. GM already builds Buicks and Chevrolets in China, and also plans to export Saabs there. He said there are no plans to assemble Saab vehicles in China.
GM expects sales of cars and light trucks in China to grow by more than 3 million units by 2012, the largest growth of any country in the world.
Henderson said GM will not hesitate to add capacity to keep pace with growth in China. "We will put the capacity in, hopefully well in advance of today's market," he said.
GM's market share in China slipped to 6.8 percent in the first quarter from 7.8 percent last year, due to some quality problems with the Buick Regal, Henderson said. But GM has fixed the problems with a supplier, and expects to grow its market share, he added.
The growth of China's automotive market allows the country to become a source of automotive parts for vehicles assembled back in North America, Henderson said. Some vehicles that are planned for launch in 2005 and 2006 will use some parts from China, he added.
Copyright 2003, Reuters News Service
Jun 11, 2003 (4:38 pm)
Clarification on tire ratings:
"Z" means "somewhere above 149mph as defined by the manufacturer". That means some Z rated tires may be good only to a continuous 149mph, others may be good to one of the later (W/Y) specs, Michelin and Pirelli make some reinforced Z-rated tires certified for > 200mph.
The later two ratings came later, as standard-issue production cars started consistently topping 150mph:
"W" means "up to 168mph/270kph"
"Y" means "up to 186mph/300kph"
So, you'll see tires labeled 225/50ZR-17 86Y or some such, the real speed rating is Y even though it's theoretically a "Z" tire.
Jun 11, 2003 (4:39 pm)
"They should call this article: China to become next super power because the U.S. will eventually lose its manufacturing base"
It's already in progress.
Jun 11, 2003 (5:23 pm)
It will be a shame if Cadillacs are manufactured in China instead of the USA ....I am sorry to say I wont buy one . But until then that CTS-V is getting closer and closer GO stock market GO
Jun 11, 2003 (7:44 pm)
The Chinese market for cars is growing approx 30% a year - the numbers are starting to become significant even by US standards.
The Chinese generally discourage imports, forcing 'joint ventures' (51% locally owned, usually with the brother, son or nephew of some official in nominal control - it is, after all, China) and local production.
The potential market is large enough that a fair chunk of the world's automakers have been willing to overlook the deficiencies of this arrangement: VW/Audi got in first and is still pretty dominant (the number of Audi A6s on the road in Shanghai as a percentage of the total fleet is pretty astounding), GM also has a strong presence under the Buick label, the Japanese were slower to get on board but are making inroads.
People buying cars tend to be fairly affluent, so the market leans toward fairly large cars - Passats, Audi A6s and A8s, Buick Regals, Camrys - the CTS would fit in pretty well. Gas prices are comparable to US levels, not taxed at 4-5x the value of the commodity like Europe. VW's making a push to get younger/less rich people into smaller vehicles (the Polo) and there's some low-end models (with Japanese/Korean ancestry) wearing local brand names now too.
As for the driving environment - take ten million people off bicycles and immediately put them in cars and trucks with the same basic road rules. It's like pretty much nothing I'd ever seen before. Lane stripes are pedestrian islands, no one EVER stops for a pedestrian. Speeds are low so fatalities are modest. I don't particularly want to drive there...
Jun 11, 2003 (9:26 pm)
GMS pricing is the price GM gives to their suppliers. It varies by model, but is typically close to invoice(possibly below on some low demand models). It's not quite as good as the discount actual GM employees get, but it's not a bad deal as you don't have to negotiate to get it and if there are any rebates or factory to dealer incentives, you can take advanatge of those as well. My company is in telecom so they buy alot of vans, trucks, and SUVs from GM, Ford, and Chrysler so we as a company get a discount from all three manufacturers as a benefit. The GMS price is supposed to be listed on the vehicle's invoice.
#3411 of 6595 Lux vs. Sport ride quality
Jun 12, 2003 (2:26 am)
Is there a difference in ride quality between the two?
The car I drove yesterday was a lux and was about pefect.
I wouldn't want it any softer, but wonder if the Sport would be too firm, specially with the 17" tires.
My salesman said the suspension settings were the same, but i don't think this is correct.
#3412 of 6595 GENERAL MOTORS SUPPLIER PRICES
Jun 12, 2003 (4:57 am)
Check out http://www.gmsupplierdiscount.com
You may need a certian sponsor # to access site and get actual pricing tho.
Or go to dealer...If your serious they should whip out invoice and show it to you.
It will show REAL Gm employee/family price AND GM supplier price also.
BTW: Just got a mailing from GM card for a addl. $250 worth of bonus points. Remember if your gonna use GM card points AND employee or supplier discount ya better hurry. Gm is cutting the points from 5% to 1% as of July 31 or Aug 1. (I think...but its for sure tho)
But remember as I found out....MR. Dealer does NOT have to honor those programs if they don't want too. As I found out last year.........geo
#3413 of 6595 Ebony interior question
Jun 12, 2003 (5:10 am)
Does anyone know if the ebony interior is the same thing as dark pewter? If you go to Cadillac's website and build your own, it shows dark pewter as the only non-two tone alternative to light neutral and ebony as part of the two tone interior. However, when you look at the cars on dealer lots or in dealer inventory it shows ebony rather than dark pewter.
Also, I thought I saw that the '04s with the 3.6 would have a dual exhaust but will the 3.2's in the manuals get the dual? I'm getting closer to making a decision and every little bit of info helps.
Jun 12, 2003 (6:45 am)
Both CTSs that I test drove had the luxury package and I agree, the ride was just right. The sport package does have a more performance tuned suspension I believe(with auto load leveling) and 17" wheels. What I remember about one of the CTS test drives was taking it down a back road that has alot of asphalt patches over potholes and how I didn't have to avoid the patches the way I do with the Intrigue. The CTS just glided right over them with only a well muted set of "thuds".