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May 26, 2003 (8:41 pm)
Edmunds is about the last place I want to see a long term review, unless it is for laughs. Their revies have been so far off base on some other vehicles they have done. At one point, I think I have remarked that CR does better reviews. Speaking of, has CR even reviewed the CTS? I'd like to see MT, C&D, or Automobile do a 12 month long term review of the CTS. Maybe when the 04 model becomes available they will.
When I first saw pictures of the CTS back in the summer of 2001, I wasn't sure if I liked the look or not. Then in September I saw one on the road(black) and it's been love ever since. I can remember coming upon that car. I saw something ahead of me that looked out of the ordinary and as I got closer part of me thought it was a CTS but I couln't imagine seeing one since they were still months away from being on sale. Then as I came upon the car it was clear as day, a black CTS with Michigan manufacturer plates on it. I know I know, it's not like Cadillac is the only car maker to build a brand new model, but I think it is just the fact that many of us have wondered if we would ever see the day when Cadillac(or even a US company) would build a truly groundbreaking entry level luxury sedan that breaks the mold. The Lincoln LS was close, but the styling stayed too far on the conservative side. Aside from the CTS-V and the next gen STS, I'm looking forward to the 2005 Chrysler 300C.
May 26, 2003 (9:21 pm)
After my 24 HR test drive I purchased a Diamond White CTS with the Lux Package, HID's, Moonroof, Bose, Auto, and Heated Seats. It is scheduled to arrive sometime between Wednesday and Friday of this week. I am turning in my 2001 STS as the lease has expired. I anxiously await its arrival.
May 27, 2003 (5:34 am)
Here is the CR review:
The CTS replaced the Cadillac Catera, a German-built sedan that tested well but never caught on. Built in the U.S., this rear-wheel drive sports sedan feels agile and taut, but it's riddled with pesky oversights such as an unlit glove box and no assist grip handle for the passenger. Power was originally provided by a 3.2-liter V6; a 3.6-liter, 225-hp V6 is now the standard engine. Acceleration is quick and the transmission is very smooth. The ride is firm, supple, and well controlled, and feels very European. The rear seat is a bit cramped. Stability control comes only with the pricey "sport" package. A CTS-V with a 400-hp V8 from the Corvette will be available in the near future.
Seems like they are factually wrong about the engine. 3.6L 225HP? I don't think so. How about 255HP!! And as far as I know, the 3.2L is still standard for 2003, right?
#3142 of 6595 leak / road trip / thebug
May 27, 2003 (6:55 am)
We got a lot of rain here in the Northeast this weekend and I don't think I have the condensation problem others have --there was a little water/condensation all along the very top lip of the surround (right below the center brake light plastic) but I think this is the little bit of surround the extends above its seal, so I don't think this a problem or what others are experiencing. I wonder if this got rectified at some point before my build date (Jan '03). Are those with the problem owners of relatively early production CTSs?
Got to take the CTS on its first road trip. I was very pleased. Even with the car loaded with passengers and bags, the car felt agile. For those familiar with New York, I road it on the Taconic Parkway which is a nice bending, ungulating ride with some stretches of new/good pavement and some stretches of old, choppy pavement. The CTS had a comfortable ride even on the bad stretches (these sort of stretches are a big part of why I shied away from the LuxSport's stiffer ride). After getting to our destination and unloading the car, I got to take it alone on some back, rural roads and flicked on the Sport Mode for the first time. The sport mode is a whole other experience, very fun. It's like having two cars (well, that's sort of an overstatement, but you know what I mean). The complaint: my wife never felt completely comfortable in the passenger seat --that might be partially my fault since I didn't get the power seat on the passenger side and partially the CTS's fault for lacking adjustable lumbar support (which is what she complained about the most).
Thebug, did the Onstar phone end up working with your voicemail?
May 27, 2003 (7:05 am)
"...a nice UNGULATING ride..."?
Well, we have deer on Ohio roadways, too!
#3144 of 6595 Update....
May 27, 2003 (8:12 am)
CR says "....but it's riddled with pesky oversights such as an unlit glove box and no assist grip handle for the passenger...." Kinda sounds like "the 2nd clock" issue. Interesting that these seem to be the only kinds things "reviewers" can find to gripe about on the CTS. It's almost like they "have to" find something bad to say. 1150 miles on mine now...no issues. OnStar finally got the phone working. Took them almost a month. They gave me an extra 30 minutes free for the trouble.
Interesting comment on the seats (or seat) being uncomfortable. They are a lot firmer than what I'm used to but, so far, I can't say I'm uncomfortable in them. Also haven't taken any long trips yet...so we'll see.
#3145 of 6595 cartesio
May 27, 2003 (10:48 am)
Oops, obviously that should have been "undulating". My typo resulted in a valid, albeit rarely used, word that you caught. New York has plenty of deer, hooves and all.
#3146 of 6595 clear surround/clock
May 27, 2003 (11:38 am)
The moisture does clear up. But you know over time it will get dirty and then what? Also bugs like to make their way to the bottom and they are a bite to get out. They slip in near the top by the red brake light across the back of the trunk.
Clock, I am going to get mine fixed soon. But I know it will be off as soon as I reset it agian. You know in illinois if a vehicle problem needs to be fixed 4 times in 12000 of the first year they have to replace the car! I might be reseting that clock alot! If i don't I will have to go in 2 a year as long as I have the car to fix the problem.
#3147 of 6595 New CTS Owners: Congrats!!
May 27, 2003 (12:11 pm)
So glad to welcome you folks to the new world of Cadillac. Isn't it a great car? Like other CTS owners have told me, I find myself taking the longer route, just to get some more driving time. Yes, we owners have some nitpicky comments, but by and large it's a very well designed car. And for a totally new design, it's amazing how well put together it is.
About the paint: I've noticed a few rock chips on my 8 month old black CTS. Regretably the primer coat is white, so the chips really show. I suspect the paint is a EPA approved water based paint, but I'm not sure. If you look very closely, or touch it with your hand, you might notice that the paint seems to "peel back" around the nick. I just use some of my black Delstar Acrylic enamel I have left over from one of my car restorations to touch it up. I use a small brush, no problem. However, I would only use the Dealer to do a major repair. Reason: Warranty. Notice in your manual that the paint is part of the bumper-to-bumper warranty. If the paint starts to crack or peel, you'll have no defense if you have the repair done by an Independent Shop. With the high cost of repairs, it's all about staying within the Warranty these days.
2003 CTS Running changes: 1) Digital clock added to DIC, 2) Temp gauge replaced analog clock in dash, 3) Black Dashboard, 4) White backlit replaced orange backlit gauges (does that match the DIC & A/C display? I prefer they all be one color. Orange was fine by me, but would have preferred blue)
The V6 engine size is still the same at 3.2L. The CR reviewer was mis-informed.
Re the Long Term Report: MT and others will NEVER admit they screwed up when they panned the CTS versus the BMWs and Japanese makes. It just shows their anti-American design bias. The Car Of The Year should have been the 2003 CTS. It is a milestone in American car design and they know it. I just wish they we're big enough to admit it. But then again, they chose the '61 Rambler as the car of the year in 1961! My choice would have been: the 1961 Impala 409 "Bubble Top" 2-door Hardtop. Which one is worth more today? Duh!
Recommendations: Get one of the Luxury models. Mine is the Luxury Sport and I'm REALLY glad I bought it. It has some creature comfort items for the passenger side, that will go along way with making your spouse happy. The heated seats were an option I never would have bought, but am so glad I did. My wife LOVES it. The 6 CD in-dash Bose system is fantastic. And besides those little Bose speakers on the pillars look so cool! I never thought I'd use that so much, but I do. I love my 17" polished wheels & Goodyear V rated tires. Great look and ride (Like "driving on rails" as everyone says). My CTS V6 is running better and better all the time. It likes to be revved, so don't be afraid to push it. The handing and acceleration is amazing, for such a "small" engine. I had mine briefly up to 110 mph a few weeks ago, and I could tell it had more in it. I just ran out of Freeway!
The programmable features are a book by themselves. A bit complicated, but once you set it up, and read the Manuals 20 times, it will be second nature. I love my handsfree Onstar phone. VERY COOL!
By the way, I found a good use for the Analog clock. I was calling my wife the other day and notice the digital clock was gone and replaced with the word "Phone". So I referred to the analog clock to tell her what time it was. First time I've found a use. Most of the time, it's an irritating 3 minutes different from the digital clock. If you're buying a 2003 CTS, look for the newer ones as they all have Temp Gauges.
More later..... -Jerry:>)
#3148 of 6595 Rear License Bezel Moisture?
May 27, 2003 (12:18 pm)
I do hear comments about water getting inside of the gray plastic license bezel. I'm so glad it will be body color in 2004. Why they made it gray translucent plastic in the first place, is very weird.
I think ALL 2003 CTSs have a problem with moisture around the EDGES. That's because the design has a 3/8" flange (or lip) all the way around it. Every time I wash mine, I notice moisture there. But I have not noticed any moisture or suds INSIDE the housing, thank goodness. Same for the front headlight covers. So, I guess what I'm trying to say, is that if you see moisture around the lip of the rear license bezel, that's no biggie. No need to complain to the Dealer. BUT if you see it INSIDE the housing, contact you Dealer asap. -Jer:>)