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Re: 08 kia rio [tod1viper]
by caliberchic
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Jul 30, 2008 (12:23 pm)
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Replying to: tod1viper (Jul 30, 2008 12:10 pm)
What is being said is that if you fill up after only burning 100 or so miles of gas then you will average better MPG. Gotcha! Wish I had time to stop every 100 miles! 
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- #79 of 95
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Re: 08 kia rio [caliberchic]
by rioowner
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Jul 31, 2008 (4:09 am)
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Replying to: caliberchic (Jul 30, 2008 12:23 pm)
Have I been telling you people that for over two months now??? Am I just dreaming that I have posted that, that you get better mpg stopping more often??? Did anyone not hear me??? I don't mean to be rude, but if you just read my posts, you will see you get better mileage stopping more, rather than running the tank down, way down. If you don't have time to stop, then you are throwing a couple of dollars out the window every week. It takes less than five minutes to fill your tank, needing an average of three gallons or less. Use a card, no running to pay, returning to get your change, and you are on your way. Multiply that by four, it adds up. Come on people, this is the way to save. Buy a Rio and fill up after 100 miles.
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- #80 of 95
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Re: 08 kia rio [rioowner]
by lightfootfl
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Jul 31, 2008 (5:25 am)
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Replying to: rioowner (Jul 31, 2008 4:09 am)
In my trying to figure out this phenomenon of mileage greatness I think part of the "results" comes from the old adage about proving anything with math. First off, using your method where you clear "both computers" you end up with an error. Try resetting only one of them, per month or about 1000miles and then compare the results at the end of the month or whatever period you would decide upon. The actual total mileage "true miles" that is, divided by the gallons purchased will then show the difference in your results. Although your method appears to show extremely good mileages, I think you will find that your actual mpg is going to be less than you are now finding. If you are not comparing the actual total miles traveled, instead of what shows on your resetable meter, then you aren't showing the true MPG for your vehicle. I know you are getting good mpg, but don't think it is as good as you think it is.
my opinion only, van
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- #81 of 95
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Re: 08 kia rio [lightfootfl]
by rioowner
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Aug 01, 2008 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: lightfootfl (Jul 31, 2008 5:25 am)
So, in essence Van, the mileage numbers they set at the factory are only guesstimates? Not that you can really go by them? They are there just to show you a number you should get per gallon? The last couple of weeks it was brought to my attention to do just that, get the actual miles versus the trip ometer miles. I set one at zero, filled the tank, took that receipt and wrote the actual miles on it. While the "B" tripometer was set at zero also, I have been leaving it alone to compare it to the actual miles on the odometer. I have filled up seven times since, noting, comparing the two mileages. The "B" trip, and the odometer, and they are the same. Except for the tenths, of course. I am still getting better than 38.8 mpg when filling up, using an average of 2.9 gallons. The last time I filled up, the receipt is right here in front of me, I put 2.7 gallons of gasoline in the tank. I drove the car, according to the "A" tripometer 104.3 miles. I did my math, (calculations) and came up with 38.51 miles per gallon of gasoline. Am I doing this wrong??? Do I need to do this another way??? Is there something I am missing??? I am sorry I am getting this good of mileage, but you see, I don't care that I am getting better than the rest of you. My only purpose is not to stand on a soapbox and splatter out to the world how good my car gets on mileage, but to tell you what I find, and how I find it, and how to do it to save a few bucks at the station each time I fill up. My intentions are not bragging, they are uplifting, the way I see it. If you or any one of you will just do the thing I told you, then you may see a difference. I am happy I get what I get and nothing will change my way of thinking. Unless!!! You can tell me I am not doing the calculations correctly. My window sticker said "27 - 32" gasoline mileage when I bought the car. I took pictures of the cars on the lot that stated "44" mpg. They now say on tv, radio, newspapers, ads, magazines, etc. "41" mpg. Are they lying still??? Do they not know how to tell the truth??? Are they fabricating to sell cars??? If you haven't figured it out yet, I like to type, and type alot. I get my point across, but I still like to converse with the public. I am not here to argue, nor condemn anyone for their thoughts, or opinions. I am here explaining how I get good gasoline mileage by doing what I do. Final thought? As long as I keep doing what I am doing, I am going to get good gasoline mileage, and one more thing. I do NOT use EXXON gasoline. 11 billion dollar profit for the 2nd quarter. They said part goes to exploration, the rest in stock holders pockets. They said that, not me. 11 billion dollars for three or four months/can you imagine??? I suppose the rest of the companies are making profits close to that, but when is the American people going to stand up and say, "Enough is enough"? NEVER! Because we are too involved with our own lives and there is nothing we can do anyway. Gas out day? Didn't work. Have to be stupid to believe that. Don't buy exxon. Didn't work. People don't care enough to stick together. What about Shell??? They are just as rich taking what they can. You pay, or you stay your butt home. Simple. Our congress is so old fashioned it is pitiful. They have millions stock piled in their banks and they could care less what you or I think. Proven fact. We are the stools they put their feet on and that will never change. Unless we as a people stand up and vote every new person in, and make laws to change what needs to be changed, we are the footstools of every politician ever elected. Now, I need to go wash my face, as it is blood red from fury. Have a nice day. And don't forget to tell me if I am missing something in my calculations, or how to do it correctly. Forgive me if I stepped on anyones toes. I truly do not try to explore that field.
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Re: 08 kia rio [rioowner]
by lightfootfl
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Aug 01, 2008 (6:35 am)
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Replying to: rioowner (Aug 01, 2008 6:07 am)
Hi again, re the dealers signs etc, yep, I think they lie.. the govt posting of EPA stuff is supposedly a guide for us. Some will do better, some worse. Obviously you are doing better. It seems that you have been able to do exceptional and I am happy for you. I have just been trying to duplicate those readings myself, and just haven't been able to do as well. But I am going to continue trying anyway. I have been analyzing all of the factors that affect my mileages, so I would get better results, also considering the "math" etc involved.
I too think the oil companies have been ripping us off, rather than helping us, but I don't see any answer from our "helpful" government. The manufacturers haven't been doing their job either in helping to get better mileages with the vehicle they produce, so that doesn't help us . Regarding the politicians, I think we need to throw the most of them out too.
Getting better mileages from all of our vehicles regardless is one of the most critical things we need to accomplish as a nation now. Otherwise prices on everything increases. We all need to try to do what we can to improve the mpg, even if it seems unusual, as long as we are safe... and reasonable about it.
Van
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- #83 of 95
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Re: 08 kia rio [lightfootfl]
by rioowner
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Aug 02, 2008 (2:42 am)
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Replying to: lightfootfl (Aug 01, 2008 6:35 am)
Hey Van, what exactly do you drive, year, model, etc.??? I didn't mean to carry on about politics and such, but it is true, the American people cannot do anything about the situation we are ALL in. My kind of toilet paper hasn't gone on sale in over two months now. And I buy the same everytime. It is usually a couple of dollars less than normal, so I stock up on it, but here recently, with the jump in prices on just about everything, I have to wait until it does go on sale, or just pay up. That example is just one of many, and the strangest I could think of. One thought I had, was all the stations that sell gasoline, all stations, not just a few here and there, but all stations across the country, turn their pumps on, leave them on, let whomever pump into their private vehicles as much as possible and leave. The stations owners would in turn not pay their gas bills. Drastic, huh??? Well, what is it going to take to get the gov's attention to what is being done to us??? I know that will never happen. I don't know where you are from, but we had bussing back in the 70's, early 80's and really still have it, but it has calmed down. But, the point is, people would not stick together then, and they won't stick together now. My child didn't get bussed, so I am sending him to school. My child does get bussed, so I am keeping him/her out of school. That is the way it is. If it doesn't burn your butt, you could care less. Oh, you care, just won't stick together to do anything about it. I am not talking about you or anyone in particular, just remembering what had gone on and was said. United We Stand, Divided We Fall. Ever hear of that one??? That is so true. Wait till the 14% get "In GOD we trust" off our money and out of our lives. Ever think this is the way to break America??? One gallon at a time. The third world countries could not love it more. We as the greatest nation of all time, borrowing from China, going broke by driving gasoline prices. I stopped at Kroger yesterday driving my grandson around and got gasoline. I got 2.6 gallons and drove 106.4 miles. I checked trip odometer, (is that one word) "B" and it was the same mileage as the odometer, actually, it had 476 miles on it, and subtracting the starting mileage on the odometer, it was the same as the trip odometer. I am watching it. I really don't see how it could be any different, as long as you keep good charts. If word got out about filling up every 100 miles, you might see a difference in the price of gas. It went down three days ago, now back up. It is 3.73 here and you can watch it across the country if people spot and dot down on line what the price is at several stations. It is gas watch on line. GPW. Gas price watch is what it is. Go there, put in your zip and small it down to the fifth mark and it may show station prices. Go to any state and see what Arizona is paying, New York, etc. What a difference. It is .28 cents cheaper per gallon 91 miles to the south of me. Louisville is ripping off people as we speak. Outside of Louisville it is always cheaper, as much as .30. And that is just the companies doing that, not the oil companies. That oil company is fueling this station for 3.25 and that station for 3.25 and they both sell completely different prices when it goes into your tank. And that is not gouging??? Anyway, good luck on filling up sooner, and let me know what you are driving. It may be I have a new vehicle and you don't. My driving habits may be different, but it shouldn't make that big a deal. I'll talk to ya's.
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- #84 of 95
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Rio gasoline mileage
by rioowner
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Aug 02, 2008 (6:52 am)
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Ok, like I said, I ran out running my grandson around yesterday. Stopped and put gas in before coming home, and put about 38 miles on the car by the time I got home. I had to get to the post office this morning for a registered peice of mail, so I drove to the post office that services my area, which is longer than to go to the one closest to me. Anyway, got almost back home, wife had to drive out this morning so I filled the tank up behind the house, which is a Marathon, and cheaper than the city. I didn't need much gas, but filled it up anyway. I clicked it one time more after it filled up, which usually puts one to three tenths more of gas in the tank. I don't like to do that often because it generally hurts the engine to top it off. But topping it off is not what I do. Sometimes the gas will start to fill the neck up and turn itself off. I make sure it is full by clicking one time. Now, I drove 58.8 miles total since filling up last night. The tank took 1.16 gallons of gas, and after clicking once, it stopped at 1.25 gallons. Figure that one up. Here, I will do it for you. 58.8 divided by 1.25 = 47.04 miles per gallon. Guess what??? I have plenty of time, so I am going to start stopping every 60 miles. A waste of time??? Maybe. Maybe not. I will do this three more times and let you know. Not just you Van, but everyone reading.
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- #85 of 95
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Not looking good at Kroger
by rioowner
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Aug 02, 2008 (5:42 pm)
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Here's the deal. My wife filled up at a Kroger gas station about four weeks ago. She got 30 miles per gallon. She was disappointed in the fact something was not right. You don't go from 38 to 43 mpg to 30 miles per gallon after one fill up. I was going to do some research further by filling up every 60 miles or so. We had a rehearsal for a wedding today, all day, and did a bit of driving. Actually, we drove 106 miles and filled up at the same Kroger. I put the gas in this time, and did most of the driving today, and put 3.4 gallons in the tank. About 31, just barely mpg. Only at Kroger has this been this bad. Is this the day of heat driving? Or is the heat eating up the gas in my tank??? Something is not right in Fern Creek. Only at this station at Kroger has my gas mileage gone so low that it makes my blood boil. After getting 47 this morning, then 31 this evening, something is not groovy. Well, I am going to write, as I do this well, to the station that troubleshoots these problems that arise where you think you are being taken for a ride, with no wheels. As of right now, I will not buy Kroger gas, well actually, it is not the gas, but mainly the pumps. I think maybe the pumps are ripping off people as they pump. What other solution can there be??? Help me out here someone. Get my blood to cool. Tell me something I am going to love to hear. later
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- #86 of 95
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Re: 08 kia rio [rioowner]
by lightfootfl
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Aug 03, 2008 (1:06 pm)
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Replying to: rioowner (Aug 02, 2008 2:42 am)
Howdy again, well for the most part I drive a 2006 Hyundai Sonata LX V6, but I also have a 2002 Mercury Sable Wagon also V6.. and basically don';t get very good mileage with either one of them. But then again I drive mostly short trips in town, and have averaged less than 7500 miles total last year counting them both. Anyway the Sonata gets an overall avg of 18+mpg for the total 15000miles since new. On the hwy it gets in the mid 20's.driving about 65-70mph. Again, the mileages for hwy are for trips of aprx 150mi each way, or a 950 mile trip each way to Key West and back. On those trips I did a couple of times kick it up to a little under 80mph., so that affects the mileages too. I have used the cruise control most of the time, and keep the A/C on all of the time. I live in Florida, and can't take the humidity, or heat very well. I have been hoping to get over 20 in town, and over 30 on the hwy, but just haven't made it yet. The wagon is generally a work vehicle now, and doesn't get used all that much about 2500 miles last year, but the gas mileages are about the same. I have been thinking that the 4 cyl might do better for me, but I certainly enjoy the ride, and the quiet of the 6 over the 4. I did try them both when I bought the Sonata, but decided I could live with the difference in the mileage, for the overall comfort. My opinion, of course. Regardless, I am really amazed at the differences in mileages that I see reported throughout these forums. Well, regarding the various comments ...."I love my country, but I fear my government".
'nuf for now
Van
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Re: 08 kia rio [lightfootfl]
by rioowner
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Aug 04, 2008 (5:08 am)
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Replying to: lightfootfl (Aug 03, 2008 1:06 pm)
My father bought a hundai, or however you spell it. It is a four door something. About the size of the sonata, but has a four cylinder engine. He drives to MickeyDees and back every morning. He drives it under 6k miles a year. He says he gets about 19 mpg. That is pitiful for that size engine. The car is heavy. I have noticed that Kia, Hundai, and others weigh their vehicles down more than Chev, Honda, Ford, etc. I traded a Kia Sportage for the Rio. It weighed over 3200 pounds, was a four cyc. two door convertable suv type. It was only about 14 feet long, two wheel drive, auto, air, etc. etc. and got 20 mpg city and 24 highway. That is it. That is all I could get out of it. It was a 2002 with only 68k miles on it. Yeah, we didn't drive it much because of the lousy gas mileage.
Oh, I have no problem with this country, and wouldn't want to live anywhere else. The gov is so involved with itself on how to screw the tax paying people, that they are killing this country with their greed. And the foriegn countries know that>>>
I wrote to Kroger and told them my findings and I have to assume something is wrong with their pumps. I can not be so dumbfounded as to not know how to calculate mileage, and what I get from the two Kroger readings is not actual. It can't be. Something is wrong there and I am pressing to find out. I have yet to fill up again, but will behind my house, a Marathon, much cheaper than Kroger anyway, but will start a new chart on how my car does. Will inform the reading public, if interested. I am. I am saving, or was saving money.
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