Last post on Mar 09, 2009 at 8:47 PM
You are in the Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable
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Ford Taurus, Mercury Sable, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Sedan, Wagon
#50 of 59 Re: True MPG [7milehi]
Aug 10, 2008 (8:48 pm)
I can get 30mpg at 75mph on level ground with the cruise control on.
I achieved 32 mpg on a Interstate with a downhill grade.
I get 28mpg going up grades and on winding roads
Allof these mpg's where with 1 passenger and 2 suitcases.
I have not checked the mpg in the city as of yet.
#51 of 59 Re: Gas Mileage. [waggiecam]
Aug 23, 2008 (8:01 pm)
Have you had your 0-2 sensors checked? Autozone (and others?) will check your codes - maybe give you a hint on the stalling (which my '87 wagon did at times - but I didn't know what to do at the time). I drive about 80K per year for my job - I will post separately on that subject and my fuel mileage. Generally, replacing the air cleaner will help power, and what you have done should help, but 14 mpg seems very low to me - I get between 18-22 mpg fully loaded (4200# GVW) with a 12" x 60" sign mounted on my roof at 55-70 mph driving hard on my '96 with the 3.0 12-valve.
#52 of 59 A Tale of Two Tauruses
Aug 23, 2008 (8:55 pm)
I have owned both an '87 wagon and a '96 sedan (both 3.0 12-valve)
'87: Bought with 34K, sold with 165K. Used this one a lot as a family car (4 kids) to here, there, everywhere, and back again. Averaged 23-24 mpg and when I took the car on business trips, 28-29.98 (never could break 30!) Had the same stalling problem as on other post here - never got it fixed.
'96: Bought with 93K, at 107K started a Pilot Car business with this car (what I had at the time). Started out (with a 12" x 60" sign on top of my roof to add wind resistance) getting about 24 mpg running about 3 car lengths behind an oversize load. The shock came when I started leading the load - down to 18-22 mpg! Returning home with the sign down got me around 25-26. I added a 'Condensator' to my PCV line, which takes the heavy oils out of the PCV stream to the intake manifold and keeps the engine from having to burn them (bad for mileage). Hard to tell how much it improved things. Then I started using 3 oz. of acetone per 10 gals of fuel, which I feel increased mileage about 7-8% (in an actual non-scientific test). Switched to synthetic oil, 20W50 Castrol. New results: about the same with the load, but better 'deadheading' (driving without the sign up) get around 25.5-27.5 with the lowered sign on my roof and between 29-32.5mpg with the sign stowed inside the car. I keep my tires inflated to 34-36 psi, use cruise when I can, and carry lots of stuff with me (4200# gross weight with me inside). I now have over 284K and still running strong. . . . brag, brag, I know
Sep 05, 2008 (4:57 pm)
The reason Ford products do not excel at mpg is CD = Coefficient of Drag.
For example, my 05 Sable LSP Duratec 30 V6 weighs 3,360 lbs and has a CD of .32.
A Ford Fusion 4 cyl weighs 3,320 lbs and has a CD of .33.
A Toyota Camry LE 4 cyl, weighs 3,280 lbs and has a CD of .28.
It is very expensive to reduce drag. Drag ranks no 2 behind engine friction as a gasoline consumer.
If you want to increase mpg significantly current car, slow 5 mph or at least not more than speed limit.
#54 of 59 using acetone for better mileage
Oct 22, 2008 (2:06 am)
I have been using acetone for six months. My best mileage with acetone has been 38 mpg on a 420 mile trip. I drive 55 mph. My car is a 2007 ford taurus. I average 30-32 mpg city and highway. I think I can get as much as 40 mpg on the same trip,420 miles. I am going to try it a month from now.
I am a retired mechanic and have been very happy with using acetone in my car. It runs great using 2-3 ounces of acetone with every 10 gallons of regular,87 octane.
No 10% ethanol gas. Using gas with ethanol will cost you 2-3 mpg.
Ethanol is not good on any car or truck unless it is a flex fuel. All parts of a flex fuel car or truck are made to handle ethanol.
#55 of 59 Re: A Tale of Two Tauruses [pilotcar_doug]
Oct 22, 2008 (2:22 am)
You are using to thick of oil. 5-w-20 and if you run 0-w-20 synthetic it would be the best.You engine has small oil holes. It also takes more horse power to move 20-w-50 oil, even if it is synthetic.
#57 of 59 Re: True MPG [mdennish]
Oct 24, 2008 (5:07 am)
I have an 08 Taurus SEL which I purchased in July of 08 with over 10,000 miles now. (I commute 100 miles roundtrip with a carpool of 2 riders). This is a great car for my purpose. It is comfortable, roomy, quiet, and we can listen to Fox News on the Sirius Radio to keep abreast of the markets and politics.
Every fuel purchase has been logged in on Atlantagasprices.com which is a gasbuddy.com subsidiary. I average about 70-80% highway miles using the HOV lane with some stop and go rush hour traffic if there is an accident.
Overall, according the the fuel logbook at Atlantagasprices.com, I am averaging 25.5 MPG. The best mileage I got was driving (avg 65 mph with the a/c on) from Atlanta to Spartanburg, S.C. 261 miles, where I got 29.56 MPG according the to logbook. The trip computer on the dash showed that I got 28.2 MPG.
On the whole, I think the trip computer is within 1-2 mpg of the fuel logbook and sometimes is spot on.
The worst mileage I have gotten was 19.61 mpg in mostly city driving, but this was when I had 2,400 miles on the car. Since then, it hasn't been lower than 22.5 mpg.
I've had the oil changed every 5,000 miles (most recent was $10.65 using a ford dealer coupon in the paper).
My car came with Continental tires, which I rotated at 5,000 miles. I recently increased the tire pressure from 32 (which is recommended) to 34 and I've notice the gas mileage has improved from 1-2 mpg. I'll keep an eye to make sure they don't wear prematurely or unevenly.
#58 of 59 most 2009 MPG numbers do not impress
Jan 07, 2009 (9:28 pm)
I have a 2000 Sable Premium with the V6 duratec 200 hp 4 valves/cylinder engine. It weighs about 3300# (averaging figures I have read). It appears to be relatively aerodynamic. I have 130,000 miles on it. Recently I have determined that in mixed city and highway traffic I get from 23-26 mpg; in pure highway driving I get about 29-31 mpg and I drive in the 65-75mph zone often with cruise control engaged.
Why is it that many of the new 4 cylinder cars with lesser weight get only similar (or worse) mileage. I thought the technology was getting much better. For example, the Edmunds tests of the 4 cylinder Saturn Astra and the VW Rabbit get similar numbers, almost identical. Why don't they do better considering the lower horsepower and the lesser weight? It seems that there is some regression rather than progress.
#59 of 59 Re: using acetone for better mileage [woodturner]
Mar 09, 2009 (8:47 pm)
I am a bit confused re. acetone use. I understand the dilution of 2-3oz/10 gal but am uncertain about your "no 10% ethanol" statement. Is there a product you recommend for use with the acetone mix? Who has the least ethanol?Is there a risk to the paint if one spills the acetone?
Ray ( yes, you can call me Ray...too)