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Re: mpg 1.8 [caliberchic]
by micweb
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Jul 17, 2006 (2:04 pm)
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Replying to: caliberchic (Jul 12, 2006 3:39 am)
30.5 mpg is pretty good, about what I usually get for this size of car (VW Golf, Neon, Cavalier, Focus) with a stick shift on a 35 mile almost all freeway commute. Since the Caliber is a solid, chunky vehicle (which adds up to extra safety) I'd say that's pretty good. It wouldn't suprise me if most 2.0's are getting 22-25 mpg given the "automatic transmission" penalty and the fact that most drivers spend more time (if not more miles) on city streets than they realize (the average SPEED on my 35 mile commute is between 35-43 mph, based on the trip computer, even though I seem to be mostly driving at 70 mph - the small portion of distance I spend on the street actually adds up to a high proportion of time). And drive with a lead foot (they don't realize that, either - I am usually the LAST away from lights, ha ha, which is why I usually get better mileage).
Just for comparison, with a dinky Scion xA I only increased my mileage to 35 mpg, while of course enduring a punishing ride and sense of imminent danger (commuting as a thrill sport!).
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2.4L engine
by xkmail
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Jul 18, 2006 (3:00 pm)
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So I was looking at the caliber with 1.8 and 5 speed and I mentioned to the sales rep how they should put this engine in the jeep liberty. I looked at the new Jeep COmpass (probably replace the liberty) and it has the 2.4L with CVT right out of the caliber.
A note on the test drive, it was my young son, me, and the sales rep and with AC on we hit a small hill and wouldn't go over 55mph. Its not a racecar, just making a note here of what 120hp gets you.
PS> Victorville Dodge is a bunch of greedy jerks, they offered me $9000 trade in on my 2005 liberty with V6, heck I just paid $24K 16 months ago.
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Re: 2.4L engine [xkmail]
by grendel_cave
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Jul 19, 2006 (2:32 am)
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Replying to: xkmail (Jul 18, 2006 3:00 pm)
I don't know what was wrong with the model that you tested, but all three caliber engines and the 2.4 jeep compass put out at least 148hp. 1.8L = 148hp, 2.0 = 158, 2.4 = 172hp. Edmunds recently reviewed the Jeep Compass and found it to be a little low on power when off road, but still found it to be very rough terrain capable. Maybe there was something wrong with the one that you road tested. If you are interested in purchasing a Jeep Compass it may be worth while to test drive another.
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I test drove the caliber not the compass
by xkmail
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Jul 19, 2006 (7:51 am)
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See #11 above.
The caliber seemed weak on the hill, also turning about 3000 RPM doing 65 which seems high.
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Re: 2.4L engine [xkmail]
by farout
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Jul 19, 2006 (10:53 am)
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Replying to: xkmail (Jul 18, 2006 3:00 pm)
xkmail: The Compass is not even close to a Liberty, and NEVER would or could replace the Liberty. My CRD Liberty is Trail rated, and has 295 lbs tork. The Liberty is a real 4x4 and is made for and very capabil of heavy duty off road travel. The compas is just a non-trail rated entry level into the Jeep brand.
Farout
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Re: mpg 1.8 [lexan1965]
by jhknight
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Jul 20, 2006 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: lexan1965 (Jul 16, 2006 4:04 pm)
1300 miles on my SXT 2.0 w/cvt. I'm getting between 26 and 27 mpg with the a/c on. it doesn't seem to make much difference if I'm lead footin, light footin, in the city, or cruising the freeway at 70mph. I must say I was hoping for at least 30 with a light foot, haven't seen it yet. And the fuel tank is smaller than I'm used to. I'm considering trading for a Civic or is the diesel caliber coming anytime soon?
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Re: 2.4L engine [farout]
by xkmail
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Jul 20, 2006 (7:25 pm)
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Replying to: farout (Jul 19, 2006 10:53 am)
Yeah, my LIberty hauls but too. But honestly, what the heck can I haul with a 5000 lbs rating. A 19 foot trailer is about 4000 lbs empty, add water and goodies and that's it.
Yours is obviously a diesel, I live in california and they can sell a lamborghini diablo that gets 6mpg, but a diesel car is an unacceptable polluter, even a VW TDI that gets 50mpg is a dirty behicle.
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Re: mpg 1.8 [jhknight]
by jhknight
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Jul 21, 2006 (11:33 am)
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Replying to: jhknight (Jul 20, 2006 6:07 pm)
"world engine" my a**! check out this website;
http://www.wanttoknow.info/carmileage
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gas mileage the same....
by lexan1965
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Jul 23, 2006 (8:38 pm)
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I just took my caliber from Evansville, IN. to Quincy, IL. on a road trip. It did'nt matter if it was windy, raining, etc. the gas mileage remained the same at 27.3 mpg average.
You would think that by wathcing your speed and good weather conditions you might see a slight variation on mileage but this is'nt the case with the cvt/2.0 engine.
I averaged 70 to 75 mph over 600 miles and 27.3 mpg was the best I could get. I did have my a/c running also but don't think it makes a difference.
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Re: gas mileage the same.... [lexan1965]
by jhknight
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Jul 24, 2006 (2:41 pm)
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Replying to: lexan1965 (Jul 23, 2006 8:38 pm)
Yes, you would think that a tiny 2.0 would do at least 30-35. the a/c on most cars makes a 1-2 mpg difference usually. On my most recent tankful though I finally saw a "spike" of 29.9mpg including a 100 mile trip at 70mph with the a/c off. my average has been 26-27 since day one. could a cvt be less efficient than an overdrive automatic? do the extra valves and mechanicals of the 2.0 use more energy? Or is the 2.0 too choked with emissions devices? On the plus side it is nice to drive "enthusiastically" and be assured of at least 26mpg. It's strange that a smaller engine seams to do worse mpg, I also own a 2000 2.4 dohc dodge stratus with automatic which is solidly getting 26-27mpg.
Anyway, when I signed up for a 27 month lease my strategy was to enjoy the roominess of this car while waiting for consumer demand to finally bring us the 100mpg car we should have had 30 years ago. (it looks like Toyota will do this in 2009) Had I gone with the new Civic the small increase up to 40 mpg would have made not all that much difference in my pocketbook so I might as well have something "different."
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