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Re: Numbers to consider for MPG... [kato1] by mek0123
Apr 26, 2006 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: kato1 (Apr 25, 2006 7:54 pm)

I think I would rather get broadsided or T-boned in a Caliber than its Toyota/Honda/Kia/Hyundai equivalent. I've seen the smaller economobiles after a bad accident and it has (in some cases) taken years, if ever, for the driver and/or occupants to get back to a normal mobile life. The 3100lbs the Caliber weighs affects the mileage naturally, but one must ask themself, is it worth it to be seriously crippled up after such? Urban dwellers might find this point more important than their rural counterparts. Just a point I thought I'd throw your way.
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Re: Numbers to consider for MPG... [dakota29803] by wcott
Apr 26, 2006 (6:15 am)
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Replying to: dakota29803 (Apr 26, 2006 5:23 am)

I've driven the Rio...my biggest bug with that car is the size of the motor. It's a bit small for my tastes. Granted for 75 percent of the time when you're city driving, it would be sufficient. But I don't want to be white-knuckling the wheel while trying to pass a RV on the highway.
Isn't the Kia Spectra5 a titch bit bigger?
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Re: Numbers to consider for MPG... [aaron_t] by kato1
Apr 26, 2006 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: aaron_t (Apr 26, 2006 4:43 am)

"I'm not sure why you keep throwing the Corolla into the mix. Yes, it is a compact, but does not have the utility of a hatchback/5-dr nor the look/image. People are not cross shopping the appliance Corolla with hatchbacks. "
 
youre right. most people probably arent cross shopping a caliber with a corolla. the corolla is indeed very appliance like, but does its job very well. but i think the matrix is a good comparison. when i build a caliber and matrix the way i want them the price is within $1000.
of course we all want different features in a car. the caliber will have good utility and definitely has unique looks. i guess all my babbling on the caliber is that it doesnt shine in the one area that a compact car should. maybe a couple years in, they will offer a more fuel efficient version??? as ive stated before, i'd definitely consider this car if they did that.
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Re: Numbers to consider for MPG... [kato1] by canoenut
Apr 26, 2006 (6:45 am)
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Replying to: kato1 (Apr 26, 2006 6:23 am)

Thanks for your comments and for now removing the Corolla from the debate. As a long time VW Diesel driver, I'm making a leap to the Caliber knowing that in no way will it equal my past fuel economy. However until VW comes up with a Golf Plus model in North America or until DCX will be able to offer the VW diesel in the Caliber (like they are doing now for their overseas markets), I'm willing to pay more to travel the same number of kilometres in order to have what the Caliber offers. Perhaps a new Matrix in 2008 would be more attractive to me but I'm not going to wait and see.
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Re: Numbers to consider for MPG... [kato1] by aaron_t
Apr 26, 2006 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: kato1 (Apr 26, 2006 6:23 am)

I think the Corolla is probably the best single person commuter vehicle, a great appliance car.
 
I also think the Matrix/Vibe are perfect competition for the Caliber, as well as PT Cruiser, Mazda 3 5-dr, Focus ZX5/ZTW, and VW Golf.
 
I think the Caliber shines as a uniquely styled compact with extra utility and some nice features for the money. Fuel economy is not far off the other 5-dr/wagons.
 
I also think the media and therefore many consumers are placing too much value on fuel economy. It should be a factor when deciding what vehicle to purchase or possibly replacing a less fuel efficient vehicle, but the numbers should be evaluated for the real cost, not just the knee-jerk reaction of paying more at the pump.
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Re: Numbers to consider for MPG... [wcott] by dakota29803
Apr 26, 2006 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: wcott (Apr 26, 2006 6:15 am)

I agree that the Rio 5 would not pass muster as my only car, but my wife's car is a Buick Lucerne for highway travelling. In need something for in city and short distance hauls (not more than ~300 miles.)
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Re: Numbers to consider for MPG... [nonnemacher] by jstant01
Apr 26, 2006 (12:30 pm)
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Replying to: nonnemacher (Apr 25, 2006 6:33 pm)

Having read these arguments about fuel mileage, I have to say that I can see "reason" in most of them. Certainly, buying a "hybrid" to "save money" doesn't make sense. Forget it - you're going to pay more for the car than what you pay in gas unless you keep it for 200,000+ miles.
 
However, I also agree with those who have to wonder aloud why domestic compacts don't get better mileage. I just returned from a 500 mile roundtrip with my Pontiac Vibe. I easily got 40+ MPG across the Ohio Turnpike at 65 mph. The Vibe has a Toyota motor, as we all know. I suspect that if it had any of the 4-cylinders GM is currently using, the mileage would be well below that.
 
I can't offer any educated comments on a diesel, having never owned one. However, I too am sick of hearing Americans complain about gas prices while they continue to buy and drive around in behemoth gas guzzlers. A family of five could easily fit in my Vibe, with plenty of room for carrying cargo and "stuff."
 
Anyhow, rather than continuing to rant, I will also say it does come down to what someone else said - the bottom line is that people are buying what they want and as long as consumers still "want" gas guzzling behemoths, that's what the Big 3 are going to provide.
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Re: Numbers to consider for MPG... [wcott] by philqb2
Apr 26, 2006 (1:06 pm)
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Replying to: wcott (Apr 26, 2006 6:15 am)

"But I don't want to be white-knuckling the wheel while trying to pass a RV on the highway.
Isn't the Kia Spectra5 a titch bit bigger? "
 
There is none of this at all. The caliber is a bit slow at the start, but races by other cars easily. I thought I would have to gun it the first time I passed a semi, and was surprised when I hit the gas hard and blew on by. Better passing pickup than my old 6 cylinder Stratus, and that was a 2004.
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Re: Numbers to consider for MPG... [jstant01] by aaron_t
Apr 27, 2006 (4:05 am)
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Replying to: jstant01 (Apr 26, 2006 12:30 pm)

However, I too am sick of hearing Americans complain about gas prices while they continue to buy and drive around in behemoth gas guzzlers. A family of five could easily fit in my Vibe, with plenty of room for carrying cargo and "stuff."
 
Very few vehicles could fit adult behind me 6'4" and long legs. Also, reverse facing child seats do not fit either. The cargo space behind of a compact hatch won't hold a pack N play, strollers, portable high chair and other baby/toddler stuff either. Maybe when kids are >5 a small hatch would work as a primary family vehicle, but not a young family. This is why I have a minivan (21mpg) and two 4-dr pickups (14 & 12mpg). Combined 40k miles per year between 2 drivers
 
But I don't complain about fuel costs.
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Re: Numbers to consider for MPG... [aaron_t] by jstant01
Apr 27, 2006 (5:28 am)
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Replying to: aaron_t (Apr 27, 2006 4:05 am)

I'm glad you don't complain about gas prices. I'm doing my best not to complain either!
 
I'll agree with you when it comes to "storage" of toddler stuff in a car like the Vibe. It is unlikely that a folded down playpen would fit. However - strollers, etc., no problem. I've had them in there on occasion.
 
Also, your height would probably not be a factor either since the backseat of the Vibe is roomier than any vehicle I've ever owned. I am about 6 ft and weigh 350 pounds. This translates to "seat all the way back, and reclined some." I've had many adults and kids sit behind me with no complaints. I've actually sat back there behind other drivers that have the seat in the same position. The Vibe is simply above the pack when it comes to rear seat room.
 
As for rear-facing child seats, again, I've never had any trouble using one in my back seat on the driver or passenger side.
 
Enough about the Vibe for now, since this is a Caliber forum. Based upon my "test" of the Caliber at the Detroit auto show, I suspect it would easily accomodate a family as well, although I personally thought the back seat was much more cramped than my Vibe. It may have more to do with the design of the door opening, or the floorboard, or perhaps the height and extension of the seat, but I had a hard time getting in and out of the back. The storage space behind the back seats looked to be about the same.

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