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#15341 of 16087 Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [plekto]
Dec 08, 2012 (11:25 pm)
Or you install the LN Engineering upgrade once and you're good.
#15342 of 16087 Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [fedlawman]
Dec 09, 2012 (12:15 am)
Yeah, that's the $2500 "fix". The one nice thing is that you can get a lot of used Boxsters and Caymans with blown engines for literally nothing. Rebuild the engine and upgrade the IMS bearings and you're golden.
But buying new or CPO, yeah, get a 2009 or newer.
All of that said, though, I dearly miss the S2000. They really need to make a replacement version of it. Maybe a little more bling and a hard top as well. I'd still rather have a S2000 versus a Cayman.
#15343 of 16087 Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [habitat1]
by kirstie_h HOST
Dec 10, 2012 (9:31 am)
If you really, really wanted to know, you could use the "help" link at the top of this page, then choose the "contact us" option. There's a person, or several people, who provide historical values, but really only by request that way.
#15344 of 16087 Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [plekto]
Dec 10, 2012 (11:41 am)
I have to to give it to Acura when the NSX had the snap ring issue, they stepped up and would replace the transmission with no questioned asked. Of course this only effected some of the 91 ans 92 NSX's. So how Porsche done the same thing with the problem? This to me shows if the manufacture really cares about its reputation or not.
#15345 of 16087 Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [flightnurse]
Dec 10, 2012 (12:13 pm)
Porsche sort of acknowledged the problem by beefing up the IMS bearing in later (M97) models. I don't believe there are many (or any?) instances of failure with the M97.
Just one of several good reasons to just say no to water cooled Porsches IMHO...
#15346 of 16087 Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [plekto]
Dec 10, 2012 (12:16 pm)
I have to say this has been an interesting threat about the IMS failure, I have extended my search for my fun car between the NSX and a Boxster S, now I am aware of the IMS failure, I know what I'm getting myself into. From the readings here it seems that the IMS should be replaced as a failure will happen at some point and the cost of the replacement is much less then the cost of a new engine.
So if porsche is aware of the problem why haven't they helped owners out like Acura had done with the Snap Ring on the NSX?
#15347 of 16087 Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [flightnurse]
Dec 10, 2012 (12:21 pm)
Dont know. Could be the general European attitude about planned obsolescence. Who knows?
The nice thing about the IMS issue is you can get an older Boxster for pennies, do the upgrade and end up with a really fine sports car for cheap.
Ive been toying with the idea of doing this just to keep the miles off my 911.
#15348 of 16087 Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [fedlawman]
Dec 10, 2012 (12:33 pm)
I would think that Porsche could pay for the replacement of the IMS to the upgraded one for no cost, this would go a long way in customer relations and if an engine needed to be replaced because of the IMS, Porsche could pay for half or 3/4 of price tag. I'm not too sure how I would feel if I paid 85K for my new (2007) Porsche and 5 years later at 75K miles (or so) needed to spend 20K on a new engine because of a part that Porsche knew would fail... I'm surprised no law suits have been files over this.
#15349 of 16087 Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [fedlawman]
Dec 10, 2012 (12:38 pm)
Could be the general European attitude about planned obsolescence
I'm not too sure if this is really case or that the attitude has changed to have this happen. MB build theirs to last look at the W126 series S class. They are tanks, well build and have lasted. But of course this meant people weren't trading in their S class's as often and MB wasn't selling the cars they wanted.
In regards to the Boxster, this is why I have been looking at them. One can get a 2005-07 at a good price. Spent 2500 for the replacement of the IMS and have a car that will last a while...
#15350 of 16087 Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [flightnurse]
Dec 10, 2012 (4:50 pm)
All you have to do is look at a new BMW, Audi, Range Rover, etc. to see that the Euro manufacturers obviously dont want the owner servicing the vehicle.
We are supposed to buy new from the dealer, drive for 3 or 4 years, then trade in on another new one.