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#15325 of 16087 Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [habitat1] by plekto

Dec 06, 2012 (10:54 am)

Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 06, 2012 2:37 am)
It sounds to me like you might be interested in the new Scion/Subaru coupes. They are light, agile, and perfect for zooming around town and up and down mountain roads. Plus, you could get one, modify it with a supercharger, and a ton of other goodies and still be 10K under the price of the Nissan or Porsche.
 
As much as I love the Cayman, it's overpriced and they still haven't really fixed the problem with the output shaft bearings. The Nissan is simply too heavy to be considered.

#15326 of 16087 Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [plekto] by andys120

Dec 06, 2012 (12:03 pm)

Replying to: plekto (Dec 06, 2012 10:54 am)
they still haven't really fixed the problem with the output shaft bearings
 
My understanding is that the infamous Intermediate Shaft bearing failures were cured when they eliminated the entire part with the adoption of the 997 motor circa 2007. I don't think this problem ever affected the 987s (Cayman and Boxster after 2005)

#15327 of 16087 Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [plekto] by habitat1

Dec 06, 2012 (12:12 pm)

Replying to: plekto (Dec 06, 2012 10:54 am)
It sounds to me like you might be interested in the new Scion/Subaru coupes.
 
Once again, personal preferences. I still like playing baseball with 20- and 30- somethings, but I'm a couple decades and entire headset past wanting to have something that would characterize me as a boy racer. I'll pay up and forego that $10k difference. No argument that Porsche pricing isn't a little painful...they didn't become the most profitable car company on the planet by accident. But, to their credit, the craftsmanship and engineering is right up there with the best on the planet. I sometimes wish Honda had evolved their S2000 into an S3500, but for now, there really isn't anything in a sports car format that appeals to me as much as the Cayman and/or 911. So I guess I'll pay up for that preference as well.
 
The good news is that they did fix the rear main seal leak, if that is what you are referring to. Some time ago, in fact. I had a 2005 911S (997) and it didn't drip a drop of oil in 5.5 years and 30k+ miles. That problem pretty much went out the door with the 996 model of 911 and the pre-2008 (I think) Boxsters and Caymans. My independent Porsche mechanic has a 2007 Cayman with 120k+ miles that looks brand new, and he would claim it was all about proper break in.

#15328 of 16087 Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [habitat1] by flightnurse

Dec 06, 2012 (1:43 pm)

Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 06, 2012 2:37 am)
I believe if honda dropped a V6 in the S2000 it would have lost it's handling characteristics that made it what it was.

#15329 of 16087 Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [flightnurse] by habitat1

Dec 06, 2012 (2:14 pm)

Replying to: flightnurse (Dec 06, 2012 1:43 pm)
Probably right. Better to leave well enough alone, and simply reminisce about what a mere $32k bought me in 2001

#15330 of 16087 Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [flightnurse] by sweendogy

Dec 06, 2012 (2:51 pm)

Replying to: flightnurse (Dec 06, 2012 1:43 pm)
What if they put that 6 in the trunk- ?

#15331 of 16087 Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [sweendogy] by habitat1

Dec 06, 2012 (3:01 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Dec 06, 2012 2:51 pm)
....and called it a Boxster??

#15332 of 16087 Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [habitat1] by sweendogy

Dec 06, 2012 (6:40 pm)

Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 06, 2012 3:01 pm)
Only if they marked it up 15k, because they are the most profitable company in the world.

#15333 of 16087 Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [habitat1] by ivan_99

Dec 06, 2012 (11:49 pm)

Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 06, 2012 2:14 pm)
what a mere $32k bought me in 2001
 
what would be 41.8K in today's dollars (ouch)...or 10K less than a BASE Cayman.

#15334 of 16087 Re: Preferences vs. "Better" [ivan_99] by plekto

Dec 07, 2012 (1:44 am)

Replying to: ivan_99 (Dec 06, 2012 11:49 pm)
It's good to hear that they finally fixed the issue to a certain extent, but the issue was only finally fixed in 2009. All Porsche designs that use the intermediate shaft design are going to fail. Not if, but when. Sure, they did other tricks to keep the things lasting a bit longer, but the overall design itself was rubbish.
 
Just something to keep in mind when you think about buying a "2 to 3 year old Cayman". Be *sure* it's a 2009 or newer model, since the engines are horrendously expensive to fix.

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