Entry-Level Luxury Performance Sedans

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What is this discussion about? BMW 3 Series, Infiniti G37, Acura TL, Lexus IS 350, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Cadillac CTS, Volvo S60, Audi A4, Acura TSX, Car Comparisons, Sedan

#15305 of 16251 Re: Can Alfa-Romeo reinvent the sports sedan? [andys120] by fedlawman

Dec 03, 2012 (8:42 am)

Replying to: andys120 (Dec 03, 2012 7:49 am)
When you own a boxster, you wont need a "performance sedan."

#15306 of 16251 Re: Can Alfa-Romeo reinvent the sports sedan? [fedlawman] by habitat1

Dec 03, 2012 (9:23 am)

Replying to: fedlawman (Dec 03, 2012 8:42 am)
When you own a boxster, you wont need a "performance sedan."
 
That's what I am trying to convince myself of in contemplating placing an order on a new Cayman S. i.e. That if I get it, my 2004 Acura TL 6-speed will be good enough for another 5 years. Otherwise, I might end up with a 2013 M3 at near giveaway prices.
 
I will say that when I had my 911, my Acura TL was more enjoyable to drive then. I didn't feel like it needed to go beyond it's capabilities to be satisfying. It's a damn nice, economical to own, sporty sedan; if not an all out "performance sedan". And I could let the guy next to me in his 550i rev his engine without feeling inferior - knowing that I had a car in the garage that could run circles around it. Now the only other gas powered things in my garage are a lawnmower, leaf blower and chainsaw. Although I have to admit, the chainsaw fills a bit of my need to be manly, at a considerably lower cost than the 911 did.
 
So if you need to save up for a Boxster, maybe get a chainsaw in the interim? I recommend the Husquevana Rancher 460.

#15307 of 16251 Re: Can Alfa-Romeo reinvent the sports sedan? [habitat1] by billyperksii

Dec 03, 2012 (3:04 pm)

Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 03, 2012 9:23 am)
Hey Hab-Are you inferring to my pending purchase (550), with a chip installed I think I will be able to take you.

#15308 of 16251 Re: Can Alfa-Romeo reinvent the sports sedan? [billyperksii] by habitat1

Dec 03, 2012 (6:52 pm)

Replying to: billyperksii (Dec 03, 2012 3:04 pm)
Oh no, are we digitally drag racing again??
 
A new 911S scoots to 60 in 3.5 to 3.9 seconds depending upon who's holding the stopwatch. Couple of clicks faster than the M5.
 
But go ahead and get that 550i and chip. I'm almost ready to pull the trigger and order the new Cayman S. That should be a good race. As long as it's in a straight line.

#15309 of 16251 Re: Can Alfa-Romeo reinvent the sports sedan? [habitat1] by kyfdx HOST

Dec 03, 2012 (7:50 pm)

Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 03, 2012 6:52 pm)
0-60 might be the worst reason to pick one car over another...
 
I'd take a minimally-optioned Cayman S stick-shift over a Nissan GT-R, and enjoy myself for another second on the way to 60 (and, save $25K...)

#15310 of 16251 Re: Can Alfa-Romeo reinvent the sports sedan? [habitat1] by sweendogy

Dec 03, 2012 (8:55 pm)

Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 03, 2012 9:23 am)
Whatever happened to the down payment on that fisker ?
 
I would also agree the chainsaw is a manly tool- prob more so then a boxer –

#15311 of 16251 Re: Can Alfa-Romeo reinvent the sports sedan? [sweendogy] by habitat1

Dec 04, 2012 (4:20 am)

Replying to: sweendogy (Dec 03, 2012 8:55 pm)
Whatever happened to the down payment on that fisker ?
 
It was a Tesla, and they still have it while I am contemplating my options. Get weekly e-mails reminding me that it's time to build my Model S. I don't think it will happen.
 
I would also agree the chainsaw is a manly tool- prob more so then a boxer –
 
Boxers are either dogs or shorts. But, IMO the new Boxster S is a lot manlier than the old model. On the other hand, the new Cayman S has got my complete, nearly undivided, attention. Play the video in this teaser (hit overview and scroll down to "video"):
 
Porsche Cayman S

#15312 of 16251 Re: Can Alfa-Romeo reinvent the sports sedan? [kyfdx] by habitat1

Dec 04, 2012 (4:32 am)

Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 03, 2012 7:50 pm)
0-60 might be the worst reason to pick one car over another... I'd take a minimally-optioned Cayman S stick-shift over a Nissan GT-R
 
I would agree. The new Cayman S is likely the best handling Porsche this side of a $400,000 Carrera GT. I am pretty much sold. Dealer here has offered me his first slot, to be delivered in April. Will likely pay full MSRP and maybe get a free Porsche logo hat thrown in. Ah well, I like a deal but I'd rather have this car.
 
And If I cut my brains out in a chainsaw accident and wake up wanting to turn the Cayman into a Nissan GT-R, that can be done. Simply get a turbo kit that takes it to 480hp and throw 2-3 large farm animals in the hatch to take the weight up from 2,900 lbs to 2+ tons. In which case, you, Billy, Sweeny and everyone else here has authority to shoot me and put me out of my misery.

#15313 of 16251 Re: Can Alfa-Romeo reinvent the sports sedan? [kyfdx] by qbrozen

Dec 04, 2012 (9:06 am)

Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 03, 2012 7:50 pm)
0-60 might be the worst reason to pick one car over another...
 
Oh, come on. We can think of way worse reasons.
 
To be perfectly honest, though, acceleration is near the top of my comparison list, but its obviously not the only yardstick.

#15314 of 16251 Re: Can Alfa-Romeo reinvent the sports sedan? [habitat1] by sweendogy

Dec 04, 2012 (6:27 pm)

Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 04, 2012 4:32 am)
Can't argue the passion for driving and wanting a great handeling manual trans sports car. The Gtr is in another class being a super car- the boxters are real nice drivers car. Good luck on the purchase but do me a favor and never pay list.
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