Entry-Level Luxury Performance Sedans

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#15288 of 16087 Re: Can Alfa-Romeo reinvent the sports sedan? [andys120] by qbrozen

Nov 29, 2012 (2:43 pm)

Replying to: andys120 (Nov 29, 2012 1:22 pm)
There is nothing small about it. They are guessing near 5-series size.

#15289 of 16087 Re: Can Alfa-Romeo reinvent the sports sedan? [andys120] by flightnurse

Nov 29, 2012 (4:50 pm)

Replying to: andys120 (Nov 29, 2012 1:22 pm)
Interesting since Fiat owns Alfa, and Fiat wants to make a big push here in the US, I'm we are going to see some of those Italian sedan state side. I had a friend who had a GTV-6 great car...

#15290 of 16087 Re: Can Alfa-Romeo reinvent the sports sedan? [flightnurse] by andys120

Nov 29, 2012 (6:00 pm)

Replying to: flightnurse (Nov 29, 2012 4:50 pm)
Sergio Marchionne, though Italian born was brought up in Canada. I'm sure he is aware that the current Fiat and Alfa lineups are not well suited to the North American market. He is also aware that fostering growth on this side of the pond is a good hedge against the poorly performing European market.
 
He seems to be a genuine car nut as well.
 
Wikipedia: Sergio Marchionne.

#15291 of 16087 Re: Can Alfa-Romeo reinvent the sports sedan? [flightnurse] by robr2

Nov 29, 2012 (9:25 pm)

Replying to: flightnurse (Nov 29, 2012 4:50 pm)
Interesting since Fiat owns Alfa, and Fiat wants to make a big push here in the US, I'm we are going to see some of those Italian sedan state side. I had a friend who had a GTV-6 great car...
 
Alfa has been threatening to return to North America for about 5 years now. They keep pushing the date back.

#15292 of 16087 Re: Can Alfa-Romeo reinvent the sports sedan? [robr2] by andys120

Nov 30, 2012 (11:06 am)

Replying to: robr2 (Nov 29, 2012 9:25 pm)
Alfa has been threatening to return to North America for about 5 years now. They keep pushing the date back.
 
Perhaps that's because they realize that most of their current products do not live up to the standards set by the Alfas we recall so fondly. In that case it's best that they do right rather than right away.

#15293 of 16087 Re: Can Alfa-Romeo reinvent the sports sedan? [robr2] by qbrozen

Nov 30, 2012 (2:33 pm)

Replying to: robr2 (Nov 29, 2012 9:25 pm)
Alfa has been threatening to return to North America for about 5 years now. They keep pushing the date back.
 
oh, its been going on much longer than that. I definitely remember reading about their return back in 2000.

#15294 of 16087 Re: Can Alfa-Romeo reinvent the sports sedan? [qbrozen] by sweendogy

Nov 30, 2012 (3:53 pm)

Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 30, 2012 2:33 pm)
Alfas already here boys - go to the dodge dealer and ask to see /Alfa_Romeo_Giulietta_- or as we know it here the new dart. Enjoy

#15295 of 16087 Re: Can Alfa-Romeo reinvent the sports sedan? [andys120] by fedlawman

Dec 01, 2012 (7:31 pm)

Replying to: andys120 (Nov 30, 2012 11:06 am)
I was the proud owner of a 79 Spider. It was a fun car and i loved it, but i wouldnt say i was impressed with the standards set by Alfa.
 
Quality an reliability were not Alfa hallmarks.

#15296 of 16087 Re: Can Alfa-Romeo reinvent the sports sedan? [fedlawman] by andys120

Dec 02, 2012 (8:12 am)

Replying to: fedlawman (Dec 01, 2012 7:31 pm)

Quality an reliability were not Alfa hallmarks.

 
That's true enough but they made up for it with character and style, something sorely lacking in most modern cars (including the current FWD Alfas). A sport sedan with modern build quality and old-fashioned responsiveness and feel may be elusive or even impossible but we can dream can't we?
 
If not Alfa, who, or are we condemned to overweight blandly styled luxo-boats instead of real sports sedans?

#15297 of 16087 Re: Can Alfa-Romeo reinvent the sports sedan? [andys120] by alltorque

Dec 02, 2012 (10:08 am)

Replying to: andys120 (Dec 02, 2012 8:12 am)
Skoda Octavia vRS TSI is worth a look - or would be if VW Group would sell it in your part of the known universe.
 
Review attached for the gasser 5-door Hatch. It also comes in Estate form and both body styles are also available with 2.0 TDi, of course. It's fun, chuckable and very roomy. Too big ? Search for the Skoda Fabia vRS - 170bhp of 1.4 ltr gasser fun in a 5-door hatch body.
 
Skoda Octavia vRS TSI
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