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#15259 of 16087 Re: Camry vs....... [graphicguy] by m6user

Nov 09, 2012 (9:35 am)

Replying to: graphicguy (Nov 09, 2012 7:07 am)
Frankly, I don't know why people buy what they buy.
 
Finally(and thankfully) someone that does not claim to know everything about why people buy cars and how much they can afford. +1.

#15260 of 16087 Re: Camry vs....... [graphicguy] by billyperksii

Nov 09, 2012 (11:59 am)

Replying to: graphicguy (Nov 09, 2012 7:07 am)
Just to add fuel to the fire- off topic a bit.
My brother in-law visted us several weeks ago and had a friend who owned Camry. I was in my garage detailing my TL and he came by admiring my car.He said, how many cyclinders, I said six, he said he just bougth a 8 cyclinder Camry. I said eight, he said yes, eight.
I left it at that, i did not want to break is heart.

#15261 of 16087 Re: Camry vs....... [billyperksii] by sweendogy

Nov 09, 2012 (12:32 pm)

Replying to: billyperksii (Nov 09, 2012 11:59 am)
Love the fact a guy with an 8cyl Camry was Admiring the TL. Now that's funny.
 
"good post"

#15262 of 16087 Re: Camry vs....... [sweendogy] by billyperksii

Nov 09, 2012 (2:01 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Nov 09, 2012 12:32 pm)
Probably he would have jumped out of his pants if I was polishing up a "G"- we wouldnt want that, would we?

#15263 of 16087 Re: Camry vs....... [m6user] by ctl

Nov 09, 2012 (2:46 pm)

Replying to: m6user (Nov 09, 2012 9:35 am)
+1.
 
I am 45, drive a 1997 Camry every day. I do like cars (why I am here reading) but my old friend has served my need/commute well.
 
My portfolio statement told me I can buy a fleet of 1000+ of them if I want, or 150+ or them a year from my paycheck. But because I am not driving a BMW, must because I cannot afford it... shrug and smile every time I read that broken record. Let's respect all people, whether or not they appear to have money.
 
> Finally(and thankfully) someone that does not claim to know everything about why people buy cars and how much they can afford. +1.

#15264 of 16087 Re: Camry vs....... [billyperksii] by buya

Nov 09, 2012 (9:15 pm)

Replying to: billyperksii (Nov 09, 2012 11:59 am)
So he just bought an 8 (eight) cylinder Camry, eh? Well, then who wouldn't be admiring your 6-cyl TL?

#15265 of 16087 Re: Camry vs....... [buya] by ivan_99

Nov 09, 2012 (10:30 pm)

Replying to: buya (Nov 09, 2012 9:15 pm)
I think he was admiring the TL because he thought it had 12 cyl

#15266 of 16087 Re: Camry vs....... [ivan_99] by billyperksii

Nov 12, 2012 (7:37 am)

Replying to: ivan_99 (Nov 09, 2012 10:30 pm)
You got it all wrong- he thought at first glance it was a Aston Martin Vanquish V12.

#15267 of 16087 Re: Camry vs....... [billyperksii] by sweendogy

Nov 12, 2012 (2:27 pm)

Replying to: billyperksii (Nov 12, 2012 7:37 am)
Maybe he thought it was an chrome aardvark gt

#15268 of 16087 Not exactly a ELLPS.... by habitat1

Nov 13, 2012 (12:20 pm)

...but for anybody that may be thinking about a 335i that can find a little spare change in their sofa cushions, how about a brand new BMW M3 Coupe for under $59,000? Have to order the car by the end of November to get the extra $1,500 holiday credit.
 
I just got a call from a dealer that offered to order a 2013 M3 at invoice. From that, subtract $1,500 holiday discount, $750 loyalty discount and anything else you qualify for. Mine (well equipped) would end up with an MSRP of $70.5k+/-and a final net price of just under $63k. However, if you take it easy on options, a base M3, plus navigation, heated seats, metallic paint and BMW Apps comes in at an MSRP of $64,945. Invoice is $59,900 and final price after only the holiday discount alone is $58,400. Hard to call that cheap, but with 335is's and even plain 335i's stickering for over $60,000, it looks like a relative bargain.
 
I test drove a 2013 M3 this past Saturday. Six speed manual of course. I'm sure the upcoming redesigned 2014 model with a 450 hp turbocharged 6 cylinder engine will be a great car. But there is something to be said for a 414 hp, 8,300 rpm redline, naturally aspirated V8. I expect the 2014 will be viewed as BMW's version of Porsche going away from the air-cooled 911 in 1999. Or Johnny Damon going from the Red Sox to the Yankees. Lost the hair, lost the soul.
 

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