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#15246 of 16087 Re: What Is Going on with Infiniti?? [sweendogy] by flightnurse

Nov 08, 2012 (6:53 am)

Replying to: sweendogy (Nov 07, 2012 4:09 pm)
Sweeny, where did I say support staff? Support staff would be CNA's and phlebotomist, transporters who do not make the kind of money to lease a BMW.
 
I said, ancillary staff. This would be Ultra Sound Tech, and Echo tech, Rad Techs and such,.

#15247 of 16087 Re: wacky weather [nyccarguy] by billyperksii

Nov 08, 2012 (10:16 am)

Replying to: nyccarguy (Nov 07, 2012 8:58 pm)
I am keeping mine in the garage, all the salt and sand-yuck, not on my ZAINOED TL.

#15248 of 16087 Re: What Is Going on with Infiniti?? [flightnurse] by victor23

Nov 08, 2012 (11:59 am)

Replying to: flightnurse (Nov 08, 2012 6:47 am)
I've been in the medical profession now 13 years and seen it all ... people lease BMW and MB ... because they want to and because they can... to reward themselves for the work ...I do not blame them.
 
Nobody doubts your credentials, just looking at your userID. You've seen, but you are not telling anybody. So, I took pains to post the story. Of course people buy when they want to and can, nothing wrong with that, and thanks for the lesson in economics, too. Nobody ever blamed anybody for anything, and, BTW, thanks for all hard work.
 
The only message I am trying to convey (third time already) is just that the reasons for buying mostly don't have anything to do with the process of driving. BMW and MB are rarely used as "enthusiast's car", no matter the trim. Just to remind: the original question (which I was trying to answer) was "Why would a non-enthusiast pick a BMW lease over a Camry purchase".

#15249 of 16087 Re: What Is Going on with Infiniti?? [victor23] by sweendogy

Nov 08, 2012 (12:14 pm)

Replying to: victor23 (Nov 08, 2012 11:59 am)
I'm interested to what colors the medical communities gravitate towards-

#15250 of 16087 Re: What Is Going on with Infiniti?? [sweendogy] by habitat1

Nov 08, 2012 (1:21 pm)

Replying to: sweendogy (Nov 08, 2012 12:14 pm)
Hemoglobin Red. Porsche will do it for an extra $4,000.

#15251 of 16087 Re: What Is Going on with Infiniti?? [habitat1] by victor23

Nov 08, 2012 (2:08 pm)

Replying to: habitat1 (Nov 08, 2012 1:21 pm)
MRI non-metallic

#15252 of 16087 Re: What Is Going on with Infiniti?? [victor23] by kirstie_h HOST

Nov 08, 2012 (3:36 pm)

Replying to: victor23 (Nov 08, 2012 11:59 am)
"Why would a non-enthusiast pick a BMW lease over a Camry purchase".
 
Nicer car for the same monthly payment? Some people come to the conclusion that they're always going to have a car payment, or at least for the foreseeable future. And, if they're not going to exceed the mileage limit, a lease could be a good option for them.
 
I have driven a whopping total of 1,650 miles since January 1 of this year. I don't have a car payment, but if I were to take on one, I would consider a lease instead of purchase, set a budget, and get the car that I believe I'd most enjoy for that payment.

#15253 of 16087 Re: What Is Going on with Infiniti?? [kirstie_h] by habitat1

Nov 08, 2012 (4:21 pm)

Replying to: kirstie_h (Nov 08, 2012 3:36 pm)
I have driven a whopping total of 1,650 miles since January 1 of this year.
 
Sounds like you are a candidate for ZipCar? Or BikeShare? Perhaps with a supplemental Vespa? When you calculate all of the costs of automobile ownership - insurance, maintenance, depreciation, etc. - the cost per mile can get pretty extreme if you only drive 150 miles a month. Plus the cost of underground parking if you happen to live in an apartment or condo in an urban area like Washington DC.

#15254 of 16087 Re: What Is Going on with Infiniti?? [kirstie_h] by sweendogy

Nov 08, 2012 (4:29 pm)

Replying to: kirstie_h (Nov 08, 2012 3:36 pm)
1650 miles, wow edmunds must be close to home.

#15255 of 16087 Re: What Is Going on with Infiniti?? [victor23] by buya

Nov 08, 2012 (4:55 pm)

Replying to: victor23 (Nov 08, 2012 11:59 am)
Why would non-enthusiast pick a BMW lease over a Camry purchase?
 
Don't take things too seriously. Crossed and rebuke is ok. Read again other posts some contributors wrote and you'll see getting all worked up is waste of your precious health.
 
There're all sorts of reasons why people lease BMW over Camry. Top reasons would be status symbol and the fact that it's a damned good car! Leasing takes away the troubles of trying to register your credit card with the dealership for all the little annoying things that will come after the warranty expires, so you don't have to remember to bring the card. Of course there're those who flagged themselves as enthusiasts and know cars in and out, even rebuilding one from scratch. That in itself is bragging. It is as snotty as buying performance cars for their price and prestige.
 
Didn't check who posted the original question and didn't care either. The comparison is flawed because Camry is a sedan not in the same class as BMW, which is known for performance. The question looked sarcastic, and it looked like "poor people who can only afford to buy Camry should not have a big head of trying to lease into rich people's world and drive a BMW". I recent these forms for communications and views because these are the foundation that build to the poor children from heritage had to act apologetic and feel guilty -- for absolutely NO reasons. Money itself is not a crime, people make things what they are.
 
For someone who know nothing about the mechanics of cars, I like performance cars. I like BMW but I won't buy another one simply because it's a BMW - the badge. The question would be more of a question of curiosity if it were "why would a life long high-end performance cars owner choose to buy a Camry?" I can tell you it's not for performance. Camry is a reliable car for daily commute if you take care of it's basic needs, but it's definitely not a car you would choose to do long distance. I drove a loaner out of town once and I can attest to that!
 
MB is increasingly unreliable, and if I buy another one of them it's only for the name and not even for nostalgic. Yep, status. But which I don't care!
 
Obvious answer why BMW over Camry is performance. To a lot of people it's the badge.

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