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Cadillac CTS Lease Questions

372 messages,  Last post on Dec 04, 2009 at 3:48 AM

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CTS lease by njitalianangel
Sep 03, 2009 (5:08 pm)
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I went to the dealership and found a 2009 CTS MSRP for $43,535. Because my dad was a GM employee I get the GMS price of $39000. The car has 2110 miles on it(a demo). They want me to pay the sales tax upfront(8%) w/ first month payment and fees which is around $3650. They are giving a $3400 rebate but the money factor is 0.725 and the residual is 38%. He got the payment to $485 for 39 months if I put the $3600 down but I want to use the $3400 as my down payment and want a better price on the car since it was a demo.
Can you tell me what kind of a deal I should be working towards and the money factor seemed very high and the residual not very good. I have not leased before and am very confused as to all the numbers, HELP!
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Re: New lease offers [Hi] by Car_man HOST
Sep 04, 2009 (1:49 am)
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Replying to: rbirns1 (Sep 03, 2009 7:00 am)

Hi rbirns1. The bottom line lease payment of the CTS that you are interested in will depend upon what its MSRP and selling price are. These numbers can vary widely from model to model, depending upon how they are equipped. Let me know what these numbers are and I'll gladly use GM's current lease program to work up a sample payment on the exact car that you're interested in.
 
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Re: New lease offers [rbirns1] by Car_man HOST
Sep 04, 2009 (1:50 am)
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Replying to: rbirns1 (Sep 03, 2009 7:02 am)

Hey rbirns1. I'll head on over the SRX forum and answer this question there.
 
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Re: New lease offers [billmv] by Car_man HOST
Sep 04, 2009 (1:52 am)
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Replying to: billmv (Sep 03, 2009 9:48 am)

That's odd. I wonder what the category was, best residual value for a luxury sedan from a bankrupt automaker .
 
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Re: CTS lease [njitalianangel] by Car_man HOST
Sep 04, 2009 (1:56 am)
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Replying to: njitalianangel (Sep 03, 2009 5:08 pm)

Hi njitalianangel. Since you are new to leasing, you definitely should check out the following informative articles that are available here at Edmunds.com prior to visiting any dealers: 10 Steps to Leasing a New Car and Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.
 
Given the fact that you are already getting this car at the GMS price and the dealer us using GMAC's base lease rate to calculate its payment, you don't have a lot of additional room to negotiate. The only flexible part is how much of an additional dealer discount you are given for the demo miles that this car has. I personally would want a substantial additional discount to go with a demo vehicle over a similar brand new model.
 
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Re: CTS lease [njitalianangel] by artmbgolf
Sep 04, 2009 (10:48 am)
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Replying to: njitalianangel (Sep 03, 2009 5:08 pm)

Paying the sales tax doesn't change anything. If they can roll it into your lease, it increases your payment and you pay interest on it.
 
Your money factor sounds like it might not be a GMAC lease, per CarMan's post. Yes you should get the rebate taken off your $39000 price. The residual is based on annual mileage and set by GMAC or the bank.
 
Putting $ down (rebate or cash) lowers your lease payment, but it doesn't save you $ overall. However, putting the $ down is better than if you spend it on other stuff, unless you need it now for other stuff.
 
Dealers hope to sell a demo for at worst invoice. There isn't a set amount to take off for it being a demo, but there should be something off. Make sure you get a statement showing the in service mileage of 2110.
 
. The car has 2110 miles on it(a demo). residual is 38%. He got the payment to $485 for 39 months if I put the $3600 down but I want to use the $3400 as my down payment and want a better price on the car since it was a demo.
 
Carman posted 36%. Is your 38% for 12k?
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Re: CTS lease [Car_man] by artmbgolf
Sep 04, 2009 (10:53 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Sep 04, 2009 1:56 am)

Like someone else posted, it doesn't make sense to advertise best resale value, then come up with a low residual rate.
 
The higher residuals of the past, in the 50-56% range for 3 years and 15-10k miles made it not such a good deal to buy the car for residual. It kept leasees leasing again. Now with 36 - 40% residual for 15-10k miles, the lease cost is higher, but if someone wants to keep the car, buying it for the residual will be a better deal than in the past.
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Press Request by KarenS HOST
Sep 12, 2009 (6:45 am)
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A reporter is looking to interview a consumer who passed on purchasing a Cadillac because there was no attractive lease option. Please send your daytime phone number to ctalatiedmunds.com by Wednesday, September 16, 2009.
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Re: CTS lease [artmbgolf] by shaymasdaddy06
Sep 14, 2009 (6:50 pm)
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Replying to: artmbgolf (Sep 04, 2009 10:53 am)

Lease rates for any 2009 car now will be much lower because the 2010s are already on their way or at the dealerships. Unless there are hugh cash incentives to offset the lower residual rates, the best time to lease a new car would be between Jan - Jun of the model year. After that the residuals start to drop and leases become less advantagous.
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Press request by KarenS HOST
Oct 07, 2009 (9:15 am)
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A reporter is looking to speak to consumers who recently leased a GM or Chrysler vehicle in the past two months . Please send your daytime phone number to ctalatiedmunds.com by Thursday, October 8, 2009.

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