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Cadillac CTS Lease Questions

372 messages,  Last post on Dec 04, 2009 at 3:48 AM

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Re: [gator5000e] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 14, 2008 (5:04 am)
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Replying to: gator5000e (Dec 13, 2008 10:51 am)

Since you can't get a lease directly from USBank, then you aren't ever going to know the buy rate. Unlike a captive financing company, USBank might have different rates for different dealers, depending on the amount of business.
 
If you go to leasecompare.com, you can get some idea of residuals and money factors that they are offering through their banking partners... but, you'll never know the markup on an independent bank lease.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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2009 CTS Lease by jls80
Dec 17, 2008 (6:26 pm)
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Vehicle Price: $41,520.00
White Diamond Paint + Sunroof
  Preferred Customer Discount: - $4,725.24
  Customer Rebate: - $6,000.00
  Selling Price: $30,794.76
       
  Sales Tax (estimate): + $2,272.67
  Tag/Registration Fees (estimate): + $335.00
  Tire/Battery/MVWEA: + $8.50
  Dealer Service Fee: + $599.95
  Balance Due (estimate): $34,010.88
 
LEASE OPTION
Cash Due at Signing $1,855
36 Months $499/month
12,000 miles/year
Rebates: $6,000
 
I also currently have a '07 CTS lease ending in Jan '08.
 
Is this a good deal or could I do better?
 
Thanks for any info and help?
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Re: [gator5000e] by Car_man HOST
Dec 18, 2008 (2:48 am)
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Replying to: gator5000e (Dec 12, 2008 11:21 am)

Hi gator5000e. A money factor of .00275 isn't bad for an unsupported lease. It's equivalent to an interest rate of 6.6%. I wonder how bad the residual value is. Did the dealer reveal it to you? Unfortunately, I do not personally keep tabs on the lease programs that are being offered by independent banks so I cannot confirm that this is U.S. Bank's buy rate. Sorry that I could not be of more help.
 
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by gator5000e
Dec 18, 2008 (5:06 am)
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Thanks Car_man. That MF and residual (45%) became secondary when they disclosed their privacy policy to me as I was about to close the deal (or anti-privacy policy as the case may be).
 
I was set to take delivery on a new CTS today. All details had been worked out, price agreed on, etc. The dealership just needed a credit app to get the lease approved. They faxed over a credit app and along with the app is a Privacy Policy form.
 
The form basically reads that they can take my “Private Information” and disclose it to anyone, including "Marketing Service Providers", "Affiliates" and “Other Third Parties”.
 
Private Information is defined as info we received through any apps or forms and includes name, address, SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER and income.
  
 This form is not giving me the option to opt out of this policy. It is merely an acknowledgment of what they can and might do with my information with or without my permission.
  
 The dealer General Manager says no one has ever bitched at this before and that it has never caused a problem. I do not like the idea they may give my SS# out to anyone they want to, even though the Gen Manager says, verbally, they won’t do it.
  
 This really bugs me but am I making a mountain out of a mole hill? I told the GM it was a deat breaker. I asked for a letter saying they won't do this but he said he wasn't going to send me one.
 
I tried to buy the CTS but I keep running into obstacles. Maybe it's all a sign.
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Re: [Car_man] by sam_k
Jan 14, 2009 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Nov 03, 2008 4:34 am)

Car_man,
 
Is GM still cutting back on leasing support like you mentioned a couple of months ago? I was considering leasing a Cadillac CTS AWD but if what you said still holds true, then I'll just stick with my other option, the Infiniti G37x sedan. Thanks.
 
Sam
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Re: [sam_k] by Car_man HOST
Jan 15, 2009 (3:18 am)
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Replying to: sam_k (Jan 14, 2009 6:40 am)

Hi Sam. While General Motors did reintroduce its special financing offers when GMAC received a huge cash infusion from the government, it unfortunately did not bring back its special lease program. In fact, if I recall correctly the agreement between GMAC and the government actually prohibits it from leasing, or at least places some significant restrictions upon it. If this is indeed the case, I wouldn't count on GM bringing its lease program back any time soon.
 
If you are set on leasing, you will be much better off going with the Infiniti G37 Sedan.
 
Car_man
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What's a good deal for purchase? by waffleman
Mar 04, 2009 (8:05 am)
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Regarding this deal:
Vehicle Price: $41,520.00
White Diamond Paint + Sunroof
  Preferred Customer Discount: - $4,725.24
  Customer Rebate: - $6,000.00
  Selling Price: $30,794.76
 
Looks like a pretty good deal to me. Are those types of deal only available for leasing? Can you get similar deals with purchase? I'd purchase in a heartbeat for similar type of discount. What is everyone's experience?
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Re: [kyfdx] by northstar7
Apr 04, 2009 (8:54 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 14, 2008 5:04 am)

That money factor is horrible. BMW will give you money factors equating to 1.55%
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GM Sucks. by wvgasguy
May 11, 2009 (12:30 pm)
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Give us back the bailout money and shut down. Excellent lease incentives. $7000 plus Supplier Pricing and Bonus cash and my capital costs would be about $32.5K.
 
The rub? They want 24% interest rate for the money factor. I confirmed this with a second dealer.
 
I've been close a couple of times on Cadillac, but never worked out a deal. This one probably kills my last chance before they become owned by the US Government and the Union. I liked the idea of leasing over purchase because of the long term security of GM. I don't really see how they are going to make it.
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Re: GM Sucks. [wvgasguy] by sam_k
May 11, 2009 (2:39 pm)
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Replying to: wvgasguy (May 11, 2009 12:30 pm)

24% interest rate?! That's insane. Did you take the money factor and multiply it 2400 to get that interest rate? I was thinking about leasing a CTS but after Car_man indicated that GM was providing no lease support anymore, I stopped considering it. If 24% is the interest rate, it must be super expensive to lease.

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