Mercury Milan vs Toyota Camry??

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What is this discussion about? Mercury Milan, Toyota Camry, Car Comparisons, Sedan

#31 of 218 Re: Mercury Millan vs Toyota Camry?? [scape2] by bv050506

Aug 23, 2006 (5:19 am)

Replying to: scape2 (Aug 22, 2006 8:05 pm)
Didn't you say you are a salesman for the Fusion and Millan? I'm a banker and I don't think it was mandatory that I know your area of apparent expertise. I have always noticed that Consumer Reports times are slower than others. Truth be told, I think they rated my Camry at 6.5 vs. the Road and Track time of 6.1. How come you don't know that the V6 Camry doesn't come in anything but an automatic? Lets just agree to agree we both have nice cars and we like them for what they are. I'm happy for you that you like your Fusion/Millan, and I'm happy with my Camry. By the way, I like the front end, one of the reasons I traded my Avalon in, as I never liked the nose on it.

#32 of 218 Re: Mercury Millan vs Toyota Camry?? [bv050506] by scape2

Aug 23, 2006 (9:06 am)

Replying to: bv050506 (Aug 23, 2006 5:19 am)
No, I am not a salesperson for Ford/Mercury. I am however an educated car buff. 30+ years of cars, cars and more cars. Enjoy the history of cars, trucks, vans ect..
I am an Engineer with a semiconductor company. I fix, modify, repair tools that manufacture IC's. Work on many types of automated/robotic systems.
I did know Camry offers both a manual and an automitic with its V6. One thing Fusion/Milan owners are asking for and getting next year.
I did more comparing of the Camry. I get down on Honda for thier pricing, I actually should be bashing Toyota! The invoice for a like optioned Camry is almost $3,000 dollars more than a like optioned Fusion/Milan! Ouch..
But I guess if you feel the extra $3K is worth it, thats your choice. I'll spend my $3K on a nice vacation..
I can agree both are nice vehicles.. no problem..

#33 of 218 Re: Mercury Millan vs Toyota Camry?? [scape2] by bv050506

Aug 23, 2006 (11:00 am)

Replying to: scape2 (Aug 23, 2006 9:06 am)
The only engine Toyota has that has a manual transmission is the 4 cyl. None of the V6's are manual, at least not in a Camry. Do you mean the "triptronic or manu shift " feature that allows you to shift on the fly? Trust me I have had 34 cars in my 49 years and that doesn't make it a manual. The closest I have come is the 300C Hemi I had. If I put it in the "shift" mode, I can leave it there as it auomatically shifts to the next gear before the redline anyway. This is a feature that people think is cool, but I rarely us it. Its good in the winter if I need additional braking. Sounds like a big technical job you have?!?! I have a "x" brotherinlaw that went to Lawrence Tech in Michigan and he is a Robotics engineer. Really smart! You can take that as a compliment.
 
Ok, on to the next round. Does yours have a sunroof, heated seats, traction and stability control, a 444 Watt JBL 6 in-dash CD player, with MP3 and bluetooth technology, reclining back seats, premium leather, Michelin Tires, sun shade, and 4 wheel vented ABS? Just want to make sure we are comparing apples to apples. My sticker was 29,397 but I got it for 27,750 which was $500 over dealer invoice. I look forward to your list of goodies, ha

#34 of 218 Re: Mercury Millan vs Toyota Camry?? [bv050506] by scape2

Aug 24, 2006 (9:28 am)

Replying to: bv050506 (Aug 23, 2006 11:00 am)
"Ok, on to the next round. Does yours have a sunroof, heated seats, traction and stability control, a 444 Watt JBL 6 in-dash CD player, with MP3 and bluetooth technology, reclining back seats, premium leather, Michelin Tires, sun shade, and 4 wheel vented ABS? Just want to make sure we are comparing apples to apples. My sticker was 29,397 but I got it for 27,750 which was $500 over dealer invoice. I look forward to your list of goodies, ha "
 
I own a Ford Fusion SEL V6 in Frosted Silver with every option available. I have a heated black leather seats. The seats are stitched in white giving them a very rich look. I have a sunroof, a 6CD in dash CD player, Michelin tires, 4wheel vented disc brakes with ABS... I have traction control. Granted I don't have stability control or MP3/bluetooth. You ready for this.. don't cry now.. I paid $23,000....
 
So, I guess you can justify the extra $4,750 you paid how???

#35 of 218 Re: Mercury Millan vs Toyota Camry?? [bv050506] by jordanrobinson

Aug 24, 2006 (9:35 am)

Replying to: bv050506 (Aug 23, 2006 11:00 am)
I was the Ford/Mercury sales guy (by the way) And options for price was a bad idea to bring up if you plan to win this arguement.
 
For purposes of comparison, I'll go with the "Premier" package for the Milan. It has everything you quoted, EXCEPT for the reclining rear seats and the bluetooth. However, its MSRP is 24,620 and if we sold it for the roughly 2k off that you got it would be put down to 22,500-ish. So I think you can get some neat toys for 5K+ to make up for the missing bluetooth and reclining seats.
 
Also, the Shaker 6-Disk in dash CD is 600 Watts. You didn't list a trip computer, I assume yours has that too. Tells you current MPG, How much to empty, etc. And your climate control is automatic right? You set the digital temperature and it automatically reads the interior and exterior temperature and adjusts accordingly? Oh, and you have Satellite radio on your stereo too right? Pre-installed with a year of free service?
 
Just want to make sure we're comparing apples to apples here.
 
Edit: By the way, what kind of warranty does that Camry carry again? Ford just upped the Powertrain warranty to 5 year/60k on it's 06'+ models.
 
Thanks!

#36 of 218 Re: Mercury Millan vs Toyota Camry?? [scape2] by jordanrobinson

Aug 24, 2006 (9:45 am)

Replying to: scape2 (Aug 24, 2006 9:28 am)
I don't have stability control or MP3/bluetooth.
 
You should have MP3. Basically all the CD decks put into fords for the 06-07 model year have MP3 readers. Also, some models of 07' have audio input jacks in the center console for plugging in MP3 players. And if you get the Ipod package it have a built-in dock for your Ipod (Not really needed but fun anyway.)

#37 of 218 Re: Mercury Millan vs Toyota Camry?? [jordanrobinson] by badgerfan

Aug 24, 2006 (9:57 am)

Replying to: jordanrobinson (Aug 24, 2006 9:35 am)
Plus with Milan/Fusion you get a larger trunk and it has the strut/linkage hinge mechanism that does not infringe on useable trunk space, unlike Camry which has the old tech gooseneck hinges.
 
Gotta have enough trunk space!
 
Additionally, with Milan/Fusion, you don't get the chore of reading through over 1300 posts in the "2007 Camry Woes" discussion!

#38 of 218 Re: Mercury Millan vs Toyota Camry?? [scape2] by bv050506

Aug 24, 2006 (12:32 pm)

Replying to: scape2 (Aug 24, 2006 9:28 am)
Must be $23K is all they can get for them,ha Just kidding. you don't like my front end, and I think black leather stitched with white looks cheap, but thats just my feeling, I'm glad you like cause it's your fanny sittin' on it. Granted $4,750 would buy you a nice vacation. But then there will be those lingering fix-it bills when you pass 50,000 miles. They do add up fast. Does yours have dual exhaust? I'm sure if it's the six it would. Why didn't they make them more noticable?

#39 of 218 Re: Mercury Millan vs Toyota Camry?? [badgerfan] by bv050506

Aug 24, 2006 (12:35 pm)

Replying to: badgerfan (Aug 24, 2006 9:57 am)
Well they've sold thousands of Camrys....what are they up to in Fushion/Milans 200,300? Your woes will mount..its a FORD! Ya the old gooseneck system blows for sure...always hitting my golf clubs.

#40 of 218 Re: Mercury Millan vs Toyota Camry?? [bv050506] by scape2

Aug 24, 2006 (2:38 pm)

Replying to: bv050506 (Aug 24, 2006 12:32 pm)
"But then there will be those lingering fix-it bills when you pass 50,000 miles. They do add up fast"
 
I see your feeling a bit squeemish.. I would to If I just realized I paid almost $5,000 dollars more for what?? Oh, about those repair bills you claim are going to happen. I heard these same stories from folks just like you about my 95 Ranger, and my 01 Ford Escape. Ranger went to 102,000 miles, no issues, Escape went to 77,000 with no issues.. Now, about those repair bills?
 
Yes, I do have dual tip chrome exhaust tips..
 
take a look at my beauty..http://www.carspace.com/scape2
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