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Mercury Milan, Toyota Camry, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#21 of 218 Re: Mercury Millan vs Toyota Camry?? [210delray]
Aug 17, 2006 (9:16 pm)
The Fusion and Milan are very nice vehicles. Many good reviews. As long as they stay reliable (yes the big question)...
#22 of 218 Re: Mercury Millan vs Toyota Camry?? [dtownfb]
Aug 19, 2006 (12:30 pm)
Reliabilty is looking better than the 07 Camry right now..
#23 of 218 Re: Mercury Millan vs Toyota Camry?? [210delray]
Aug 21, 2006 (5:31 am)
Hey cowboy, if you buy the Milan, a nice car if your an old fart, you'll regret not getting the Camry. A much better car, and it's not a Mercury! The Milan is nice but has a WEAK engine vs. the Camry sweet V6 with 6 speed. all the talk about the tranny is overstated. Also, great mileage on the Camry. I think if a person wants to keep a car more than 3 or 4 years, they better go Camry not Milan. Having said this, the Ford 500 is a huge car and drives nice. Just ok mileage, and with the new 3.5 V6 coming out, it could finally have an engine that can get you 0-60 in less than 10 seconds. A real crusier for sure. I'd also include the Sonata on my list of cars to look at for sure!
#24 of 218 Re: Mercury Millan vs Toyota Camry?? [bv050506]
Aug 21, 2006 (8:23 am)
Right bv050506, because nobody sees Camrys as old fart cars either.
The Milan has a V-6 mated with a 6 speed transmission that performs nicely. So I'm not sure what you are getting at with the weak engine remark. Maybe you are talking about the 4-cyl model, but then Camry has a pretty weak 4-cyl base model too. And gas mileage is almost identicle when you compare apples to apples.
What you will get out of the Milan is a unique look, and just as many, (if not more) options for a lower price. As for reliability, I'm not going trash on the Camry, historically it IS a nice car. But they have had thier issues just like anyone else has. And most cars you buy in the 06' - 07' model year are going to be reliable. If anything it comes down to price, the options you want, and styling. Unless you plan to head to the race track, power and gas mileage will have no real noticeable difference to the daily driver when comparing similar configurations.
I would invite you to test drive and compare your options and take whatever we say here with a grain of salt. But as a Ford/Mercury salesman I think you would be selling yourself short if you didn't take a good hard look at the Milan and/or Fusion.
Also, if your price point allows the Lincoln Zephyr (2006) / MKZ (2007) will blow the Camry away in terms of style and options for a similar price point. In fact the 07' MKZ has a 3.5L V-6 available that will eat the Camry for lunch and come back hungry.
Good luck regardless and should you have any questions about any of this stuff feel free to contact me.
#25 of 218 not so fast Jordo
Aug 21, 2006 (12:15 pm)
I think the Zephyr is about 7.0 to 60mph. Not exactly quick. Ford needs a really good V6 that cranks out about 275HP and yet can still get good mileage. It's a looker though. Sounds like it will be nice inside and well appointed. Good point when I reffered to the Milan as a old fart car, kinda like "livin' in a glass house" if you know what I mean. Thanks for the feedback.
#26 of 218 Re: not so fast Jordo [bv050506]
Aug 21, 2006 (1:24 pm)
If you actually use wide open throttle to get those 0-60 times of under 7.0 seconds fairly often, you will soon see your MPG well below 20 as well, despite the supposedly high EPA city and highway MPG ratings for the Camry/Avalon V-6. There is no free lunch when it comes to leadfooted drivers.
I would argue that any "average" mid size sedan driver would find that any sedan having a 0-60 of 8-9 seconds or so to be very adequate for all their driving needs.
#27 of 218 Re: not so fast Jordo [bv050506]
Aug 21, 2006 (2:08 pm)
Not to stray too far off topic, but I know the New 3.5L V-6 that is going in the 2007 MKZ boasts 263HP. So that's getting better for sure. I hope they make this optional for Fusion/Milan. So far I haven't heard anything about it, but it certainly seems possible. We can hope anyway!
#28 of 218 Re: Mercury Millan vs Toyota Camry?? [bv050506]
Aug 21, 2006 (4:45 pm)
How is the 3.0 weak? it goes 0-60 in 7.2-7.4 seconds depending on what review you read? That is tenths of a second slower than cars with 20 or more HP??? Also, didn't you know the Fusion/Milan have 6speed automatics? Of course to you the transmission issue with the Camry is "overstated" Get out on the net and look around.. its not "overstated" Toyota screwed up..
By the way with my Fusion SEL V6 I average 26.8 MPG. I was getting as high as 27.4!! Milan is classy and very stylish when set side by side to that ugly frontend of the Camry..
#29 of 218 Re: Mercury Millan vs Toyota Camry?? [scape2]
Aug 22, 2006 (11:47 am)
Your getting a little testy sir. Consumer Reports calls it 0-60 at 8.0, a long haul from 7.2 Must be the lack of torque for being soooooooo slow. I did not know they had a six speed which is good to hear. Road and Track records the Camry at 6.1 and 99.9 in the quarter mile. Real world numbers for mileage are low 30's not upper 20's like the Fusion/Milan. I had the Avalon and now the Camry and haven't had the problems that others have experienced with the tranny. When something isn't right you always hear about it. Sooner or later the Ford and Merc products will have a perceived disaster too. I'll try and take it easy on you when it happens. I got up closer to a Fusion yesterday, it's avery nice car! Would have made the exhaust tips about half again as big, but it was very nice to look at. Enjoy your ride, just remember you'll be looking at my license plate if we ever meet:)
#30 of 218 Re: Mercury Millan vs Toyota Camry?? [bv050506]
Aug 22, 2006 (8:05 pm)
0-60 times vary all over the internet and differ from review to review. Who do you believe? As a Camry owner of course your going to believe the fastest Camry time, me the fastest Fusion time I see. .8 seconds a "Long Haul" from 8.0?? Can you count to .8 seconds? Come clean now, the 6.1 you claime from Road and Track is for a manual Camry right?? Your not knowing the Fusion/Milan even offered a 6 speed auto shows me you don't research.
You may take me in the 0-60, but I know I'll get you in the twisties..