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Mercury Milan, Toyota Camry, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#197 of 218 Re: Ratings: Milan - 10, Camry - 7 [savetheland]
by stlpike07
Jul 27, 2007 (4:11 pm)
Thank you for all of the technology information.
I was trying to make a simple comparison, thats all.
#198 of 218 Re: Ratings: Milan - 10, Camry - 7 [stlpike07]
by savetheland
Jul 27, 2007 (7:24 pm)
All I wanted to say that Toyota like Sony does not dominate in any particular sector. It does not make best sedan, or best SUV and etc.
#199 of 218 Re: Milan v Camry [akirby]
by makigrl
Aug 19, 2007 (3:38 am)
Is that why i'm seeing discounts on Toyota's at dealerships not just the Minvans but like Tacomas or Tundra one or the other selling $7,000 of off msrp. Not just American trucks and Suv's with the $7- 10,000 something discounts of msrp. $5,000 something of msrp for the Avalon. I even saw one selling at least a couple of 07 Cammry's at around $3,800 in discounts. Taking the $500 factory cash back and adding an additional $3,500 in cash back.
I know Toyota is spose to be the number one car but I see them sometimes offer $3-4,000 cash back on Camry's. You almost never find an accord discounted below probably $1,-2,000. You never see an Accord where they tell you your saving $4,000 off msrp.
#200 of 218 Re: Milan v Camry [makigrl]
by mcdawgg
Aug 19, 2007 (4:54 am)
"$3-4,000 cash back on Camry's." I wish! I have never heard of such a thing. Anyone else?
#201 of 218 Re: Milan v Camry [mcdawgg]
by savetheland
Aug 20, 2007 (5:44 pm)
It is normal for Camry this time of the year. It is end of model year so they sell new cars as an one year old ones. I bought my Sable with $5,000 discount and my friend bought Camrys twice with this kind of discount.
#202 of 218 Re: Milan v Camry [savetheland]
by mcdawgg
Aug 20, 2007 (9:07 pm)
Toyota is advertising $500 cash back on the Corolla, $0 on Camry in my part of the country. I also looked at the Edmunds site to see if they have any deals - none in Ohio and PA, $500 in the California area (not $5,000). One of my local dealers will do about invoice on an '07, but they only had 2.
If you can point me to a dealer that has a $5,000 discount on a Camry, I will go, buy it, and re-sell it for a profit!
#204 of 218 Re: Milan v Camry [savetheland]
by mcdawgg
Aug 21, 2007 (8:01 pm)
I would love to. In the meantime, I will be waiting for someone to prove to me that it is possible to get one for $5,000 off so I do not waste my time. So far, the best deal I have ever seen and/or heard of is $500 below dealer invoice, which I can understand. But $5,000 ???
Recent posts in the prices paid forum are saying that dealers are not willing to go anywhere near that low.
#205 of 218 Re: Milan v Camry [mcdawgg]
by savetheland
Aug 22, 2007 (6:07 pm)
We are not talking about $5000, but rather $4000 below MSRP for XLE.I think it is reasonable discount for end of model year. Otherwise why to buy 2007 Camry when you can by 2008?
Just do not be shy and persist. If they are not cooperative - just go to another dealership. There are more cars than buyer.
#206 of 218 Negotiating a good price.
by mschmal
Aug 23, 2007 (9:25 am)
The key to getting a good price is to EDUCATE yourself.
Know before you go how much you are looking to finance and how much that will be per month. Use payment calculators.
Always negotiate up from your price.
Always have a good idea what the invoice cost of the specific car you want to buy is.
Always have a good idea of what the car you want is going to cost you in round numbers per month.
Don't let the dealer get you into conversations about how much you want to spend per month. This marks you as uneducated. Respond by saying "I'm only looking to test drive today."
ALWAYS ALWAYS reject dealer added accessories and "market value adjustment"
Always remember that it is more important to get the car you want then to settle for the one you don't over a few hundred dollars. Just be rationaly about it. If you pay a fair price as indicated by the TMV on Edmunds, the be happy that you get the car you wanted. Don't let your ego about saving an extra few dollars stop you. Remember that your time has a money value also.
Never walk into a dealership and say "just give me your best price" this marks you right off as someone who didn't do their research and you will end up paying more.
Always be ready to make an offer. You have to be specific, or the dealer will just try to hammer you to get you to agree to the number he just presented.
Never say "Well I need you to do a little better on the price" Dealer will just respond with "Wow, I wish I could, but we never let this model go for less than what I'm showing you...." then dealer makes you an offer and you surrendered your position.
Say things like "I would BUY this car for an extra $200 etc. discount" or "I would by this car if you gave me another $___ for trade in value.
Remember though that you should negoiate the selling price of the car you are being seperate from the car you are trading.
Until you say you are ready to buy that specific car then you will not get the best price.
Never negoiate the monthly payment the dealer can do all sorts of things to lower the monthly payment without lowering the price of the car.
People say they hate to negoiate but if that were try then dealers would have stopped doing it a long time ago.
You need to accept the fact that you want to negoiate and you need to learn the right way to do it.