Last post on Nov 30, 2007 at 9:12 PM
You are in the Toyota Camry
What is this discussion about?
Mercury Milan, Toyota Camry, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#182 of 218 Re: Ratings: Milan - 10, Camry - 7 [mcdawgg]
Jul 22, 2007 (3:56 pm)
Who are "experts"? Like auto journalists? I can hardly call them the "experts".
I thought cars are built for consumers. Experts do not drive Camries everyday while customers do rather take short test drives. IMHO they are more impressed by Toyota as a company than by cars they make. Toyota makes good effective engines working on premium gas but thats not enough to make a good car.
#183 of 218 Re: Ratings: Milan - 10, Camry - 7 [savetheland]
Jul 22, 2007 (8:24 pm)
I assume you own a Milan. I assume the other person owns a Camry. No one wants to think their car is a bad car or that they should have purchased a different car.
I don't care what someone tells me or how someone rates the car. I test drove 7 cars for about a half hour to an hour a piece and then bought one, along with doing some research.
It all depends on what you like. Some people think the Camry is better. Some people think the Milan is better. Who is right? I don't think anyone is wrong.
I've heard plenty of crap from Milan owners, I guess I'll tell them to post on Edmunds so there are more consumer ratings. Anyway, most people come to these sites to complain.....AND, is it possible some people are filling out phony ratings? I wonder??
#184 of 218 Re: Ratings: Milan - 10, Camry - 7 [stlpike07]
Jul 22, 2007 (11:42 pm)
stlpike07 there are too problems with your post. First I do not own Milan, Fusion, Mazda6 or MKZ and not going to, at least in near future. I certainly not going to buy car like Camry ever - here may be you are right. Secondly owners do not complain about Milan but complain a lot about Camry. Thats what was my point - what owners think about their cars. And note that people who rate cars at Edmunds understand something about cars.
I also believe in CR reliability ratings since it is only accepted reliability rating in USA. And they also rated Milan higher than Camry (and Accord).
#185 of 218 The media
Jul 23, 2007 (8:24 pm)
has pounded it into consumers heads that anything Camry or Accord is just plain better, no questions asked.. However with forums like these and the hundreds of others across the internet.. the consumer will rule!
#186 of 218 Re: The media [scape2]
Jul 24, 2007 (12:35 am)
Maybe so....However, My 2007 Camry is fine. A friend who has a Milan hates it and always wants to ride with me rather than driving the both of us.
What does that say?
#187 of 218 Re: Ratings: Milan - 10, Camry - 7 [savetheland]
Jul 24, 2007 (12:39 am)
Camrys are great cars. I don't think thats media hype. It is very unfortunate that some people are having so many problems with their vehicles. I feel for them.....However, just because there aren't hundreds of posts about people hating their Milans doesn't mean everyone is happy with that car.
I would imagine that practially every car, if not every car has multiple TSB's out for it and that a small percentage of owners experience problems. A friend who drives a Ferarri was having problems with his car. I don't have the money to buy one, but if I did, would that affect my decision to buy one? Probably not.
#188 of 218 Re: Ratings: Milan - 10, Camry - 7 [stlpike07]
Jul 24, 2007 (6:17 pm)
I do not like Camry not because of unreliability but because how it drives. Well I do not like if car has issues from day one either.
You say that only unhappy Camry owners and only happy Milan owners rate their cars on Edmunds. Donít you find this statement to say the least inconsistent? If there are so many unhappy Milan owners - where they are hiding? Didnít you think may be your friend just chose a wrong type of car? May he Camry/Buick type of guy but went instead for sporty car. It is not like Milan has a problem - it is rather your friendís problem of choice.
#189 of 218 Re: Ratings: Milan - 10, Camry - 7 [savetheland]
Jul 24, 2007 (7:49 pm)
Your are misconstruing what I said about the ratings.
As far as the ride, I understand that. Some people like a soft ride, and some people like to feel every bump in the road. I like smooth rides, versus bumping around. Thats why I got my Camry.
Unhappy Milan owners don't necessarily go online, to sites like edmunds, to write up car complaints.
"May he Camry/Buick type of guy but went instead for sporty car. It is not like Milan has a problem - it is rather your friendís problem of choice." Funny you say that, so what your saying is that if someone disagrees with you they are wrong? That doesn't make sense.....I'm not going to argue though.
What does make sense, and I hope we can agree, is that every car manufacturer has some unhappy car owners. Every car that is manufactured on an assembly line is not perfect. Can we agree to that?
#190 of 218 Re: The media [stlpike07]
Jul 25, 2007 (8:31 am)
A friend who has a Milan hates it and always wants to ride with me rather than driving the both of us.
What does that say?
Maybe he is just feeding you that line because he is a cheapskate and would rather burn your gas .
Why exactly does he "hate" his car?
#191 of 218 Re: The media [jeffyscott]
Jul 25, 2007 (5:13 pm)
I don't think he is a cheapskate...he has the basic stereo (I have the JBL stereo) so he may be a little jealous. HE drives his car a lot. I have fun riding with him, but I would rather drive my car anyway.
He said the ride has gotten a lot bumpier and that he is experiencing a lof of rattles. He has had some complaints about acceleration delay when he steps on the gas. I don't know what to say about that one.
I think some people need to take the time to get used to how a car drives and adapt their style of driving. I test drove 7 cars before I bought my camry. Some cars didn't accelerate for a few seconds after I stomped on the gas. The Camry did....who knows? People are having problems with every kind of car it seems.