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Acura TSX, Lexus IS 250, Car Comparisons, Sedan
Jan 06, 2006 (9:28 am)
Just to throw my hat in the debate. You can't just look at the number of cylinders, you have to pay attention to the size and weight of the car and how well the engine is suited to the car. I can tell you personally about two cars that I've owned where you could not just go on the number of cylinders in the car. My Audi A4 1.8T, while it has a tiny 4cyl engine and modest horsepower has great acceleration because of the turbo. My old Mazda Millenia had a 2.5L V6 and the car was so heavy that little old ladies with walkers were passing me. Could the Lexus be quicker of the line?, maybe. But I can tell you that the TSX has enough horsepower when it needs it. It is no dog, nor it will leave you feeling that you have to get out and push to make it go faster. I think the TSX has the right balance of handling, power and luxury plus it is a tremendous bargain. No knock on the Lexus, but I will not buy JUST BECAUSE it has 6 cylinders.
#42 of 318 Re: 4-cylinder vs 6-cylinder [sosk]
Jan 06, 2006 (12:53 pm)
Don't sweat the ignorance remark. It's just that anyone who owns a TSX knows for sure that the car is great on the freeways. In fact, it absolutely sings. All misinformed opinions aside, power is not an issue with this car.
Does the IS350 have much more power? Sure. That doesn't mean the TSX is underpowered. It just means the 350 has more.
Bottom line: the TSX is a remarkable all-around performer, very well-balanced and very, very fun to drive.
It's up to you to decide if the appointments available in the IS350-250, BMW 3 series or other cars is important to you.
I can say this: for the dollars, the TSX's combination of luxury, refinement and performance cannot be beat.
BTW, for your friend the TSX owner, some of the fastest cars in the world are four bangers.
#43 of 318 Re: 4-cylinder vs 6-cylinder [sosk]
Jan 06, 2006 (12:59 pm)
I've been told by several people, here and there & over the years, to avoid 4-cylinder cars.
You've been talking to some really biased and ignorant people. Sorry for the reply but some of the stuff on these boards is really for the birds. Some common sense is needed once in a while.
Again, exept for bragin rights you shouldn't judge a car by what's under the hood - judge by how it performs on the street for YOU. Have you looked under hood of an IS? It could be anything from a sawing machine to a V12 under there - you can't tell from all of the plastic covering everything.
The main thing you have to consider in this debate - are the interior/exterior looks worth the extra $5K on the IS? Everything else in the big scheme of things is a wash.
#44 of 318 Re: 4-cylinder vs 6-cylinder [sosk]
Jan 06, 2006 (10:45 pm)
sosk- just bought an 06' tsx and you have no need to worry about getting on the highway with this this baby. I drove the TL and the TSX, TL is a 6 and sure is has a little more power, but trust me the TSX is no turtle. I live in the Dallas, Tx area and have a 45 minute commute on a very busy and congested freeway. The TSX has plenty of power and get up to get me around slower cars quickly and good braking to stop me swiftly. Believe me , traffic around here sucks, and I love driving in it now with the TSX. Great car-smooth, sexy and the interior is very nice. Cockpit is very user friendly with good reach to the NAV controls if you dont feel like talking, and did I mention the sliding armrest-nice. Buy the TSX, you wont regret it.
#45 of 318 Re: 4-cylinder vs 6-cylinder [sosk]
Jan 07, 2006 (10:40 am)
Sure, the two cars have similar horsepower and the IS250 DOES have more torque (and from what I hear, it's supposed to have a pretty wide torque band). However, acceleration numbers are much more dependent on the horsepower-to-weight ratio of the car. I don't know these numbers off the top of my head, but the TSX definitely has an advantage on this over the IS250. The peaky power delivery of the TSX might not give that neck-snapping acceleration off the line, but in terms of the 0-60mph times, I've seen numbers for the TSX to be around 7sec. with the manual, while Lexus posts a 7.9sec time for the IS250 (presumably for both the auto and the manual). I think the preception that the IS is quicker might just be from having a bit more torque at lower RPMs and different throttle response (maybe one is quicker than the other?).
In the end, I think the extra weight on the IS250 will be enough to offset any difference in the torque output and it may actually be even slower than the TSX, even if that seat-of-the-pants feeling says otherwise.
#46 of 318 TSX vs IS250 ---did anyone pick the Lexus?
Jan 07, 2006 (6:31 pm)
It seems like everyone here perfers the TSX over the IS. Has anyone here decided on the IS?
#47 of 318 Re: TSX vs IS250 ---did anyone pick the Lexus? [sosk]
Jan 08, 2006 (10:28 am)
You're posting in a TSX forum. You're going to get TSX-biased opinions.
#48 of 318 Re: TSX vs IS250 ---did anyone pick the Lexus? [johnny420]
Jan 08, 2006 (10:37 am)
No, this isn't a "TSX forum" - it's a comparison between the two vehicles which will show up if you list all TSX discussions or if you list all IS 250 discussions. Equal exposure. So to speak.
#49 of 318 Re: Torque [fedlawman]
Jan 08, 2006 (5:48 pm)
The IS may have more peak TQ, but until we see a graph showing the full-range power delivery, no conclusions about it being more "powerful" than the TSX can be made.
What do you mean no conclusions can be made? As stated in my earlier post, I have driven both cars. The IS250 is more powerful. The car magazine tests have confirmed that the IS250 is more powerful. Notwithstanding the above, the IS is overpriced, and TSX is a much better value.
#50 of 318 Magazine tests?
Jan 08, 2006 (7:32 pm)
car magazine tests have confirmed that the IS250 is more powerful
Sorry, I haven't seen any magazine tests comparing the IS250 with the TSX. Can you post 2 or 3 links so I can see confirmation that the IS250 is more powerful?