Last post on Jun 06, 2007 at 8:30 PM
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Infiniti M35, Lexus GS 300, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#75 of 84 GS350AWD vs. M35X
Jan 01, 2007 (10:48 am)
Now that Lexus has upgraded the horsepower to 303 the equation may have changed. My lease is about to expire on my'03 Audi A6 2,7T w/ quattro and the main prerequisite for my next car is AWD. I have narrowed it down to the GS350 and the M35X and have test driven both of them. The Lexus is now quicker off the line and in passing situations than the M. The M handles better as best as I could tell since the test run in the Lexus was on straight roads in traffic. The Lexus is quieter, more refined and more luxurious feeling but the M is sportier and more fun to drive. The Lexus is smaller inside and has a tiny trunk. It appears that the technology in the M is better somewhat but hard to tell in a short test drive. The M doesn't have automatic door locking which I like and in order to get HID headlights you need to order the advanced tech package( which has features I don't want) and then add on another $800 for the lights. The Infiniti dealerships are more high pressure and the Lexus dealerships are far classier however I have no idea who has better service.
Now that the Lexus has upped the hp I'm curious to hear opinions on preferences. I change my mind every day.
#76 of 84 Re: How did the car do in Snow? [james27]
Feb 04, 2007 (3:53 pm)
Which tires would you recommend?
#77 of 84 Re: How did the car do in Snow? [mmoreno1978]
Feb 04, 2007 (4:28 pm)
I've got some Michelin Pilot Alpin 2's on my M35x - they handle about the same as the factory tires, and aren't noisey in the process. We've had very little snow, so I can't really say how well they work.
#79 of 84 Re: Lexus for me [janeg2]
Mar 15, 2007 (1:17 pm)
I used to love GS, like you I had a GS 300 1998. I loved it 160k miles. I recently bought the GS 2006 model and WOW the features. But I was in a fender bender and a nissan altima suffered minor bumper damage while my car suffered $10,000 damages. The car is made much thinner and crumbles. Consumer reports said its Lexus worst model for body integrity. Not Safe I am so mad I chose this over an infinity or even a BMW. I have begged Lexus CS to get me out of this car and the airbags did not even deploy, safety is a big issue over asthetics. next car is infinity
#80 of 84 Re: Lexus for me [used2lovelexo]
Mar 16, 2007 (2:08 pm)
FYI...CR states body integrity as the following:
Body integrity: Seals, weather stripping, loose interior trim, air and water leaks, wind noise, rattles and squeaks.
What you experienced is most likely due to other factors that caused your car to suffer more costly damage than the Altima.
Also, just so you know the car was given a "Best Pick" by the IIHS with their highest rating across the board.
#81 of 84 Re: Lexus for me [used2lovelexo]
Mar 16, 2007 (2:26 pm)
Manufacturers were forced in the (70's?) to make 5mph bumpers....they complained. Now, the requirement is slower. To meet the crash tests, all new cars crumple - this absorbs energy so it doesn't impact you. It is unfortunate that this can mean more must be replaced after a crash. A luxury car's parts are more expensive than "lesser" cars, which may not provide the same level of occupant protection. So, you make your choices, and pay the price.
Air bags only trigger if the impact is both above a certain speed, and the "G-force" exceeds a certain level. It is probably rare a slow-speed bump (less than 10mph) would cause them to trigger unless it was into an immoveable object, and even then, may never do it under 5mph or so.
#82 of 84 Re: Lexus for me [james27]
Mar 16, 2007 (2:43 pm)
I read the report today on MSN, that many new cars crumbled but it also states that the previous model GS up until 2005 had a better crash test rating. The issue is they can make it safer and as sturdy as the previous materials used.
#83 of 84 GS vs M
Jun 06, 2007 (7:44 pm)
We considered and test drove the usual crowd ( 5xi, A6,GS, and M). I really did like the GS but the headroom killed it for me (6'2"). I liked the styling of the lexus better than the M, but we chose the M35x because of the headroom it offered over the lexus.
#84 of 84 Re: GS vs M [kivi]
Jun 06, 2007 (8:30 pm)
Me, too. I really feel cheated that I have so few choices because of headroom. I would gladly live without the sunroof (which is almost impossible to find). But where you can possibly order one without a sunroof, it is a package with many of the fun and nice to have things that you lose too. Bummer...On my last car, and Audi A6, I ordered it without the sunroof - had 2.85" more headroom per the specs. Today, you can order one without, but, can't get the HID lamps, etc. Have been spoiled by them, and don't want a car without them. Cost a major fortune to retrofit, so that is out. Maybe when I replace this one, there will be more choices.