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Acura TSX vs. Mazda6 s Grand Touring

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Re: Acura TSX vs. Mazda6 s Grand Touring [johnny420] by mz6greyghost
Dec 01, 2006 (4:46 am)
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Replying to: johnny420 (Nov 30, 2006 5:37 pm)

Mazdas resemble BMW's? Sorry, not seeing it.
 
"BMW on a budget" simply refers to the great handling and control that pretty much all the Mazda sedans and sports cars have, at a fraction of the price of a BMW.
 
Handling, OK, at least for the RX-8 and Miata.
 
Right. Have you bothered to drive a Mazda6 or Mazda3, either the standard models or MazdaSpeed versions? If not, I HIGHLY suggest you do. The Mazda3 has decent power, and out-handles everything else in it's class, hands down. Excellent control, great steering and braking, and it's just fun to drive. The only thing better in this class is the MS3, with 263 HP and 280 lb/ft or torque.
 
The Mazda6? I challenge you to find a "family sedan" that handles as well as a 6, within the same price range. Camry and Accord? Yeah right... Altima? Too nose-heavy, and the pre-'07 models with the V6 suffer from SEVERE torque steer (the '07's are supposed to quell that, but I haven't driven one yet to see for myself). Yeah, the V6 is underpowered compared to the rest of the class, but the '08 is looking to change all that, rumored to receive the new 3.5L with 260+ HP.
 
The 3 and 6 are basically great cars for people that would LOVE the performance of a sports car, with the practicality of a 4-door (or 5-door) family sedan. In other words, BMW on a budget...
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Re: Acura TSX vs. Mazda6 s Grand Touring [mz6greyghost] by johnny420
Dec 01, 2006 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Dec 01, 2006 4:46 am)

Dude, relax. I was responding to aviboy, who did say that Mazdas resemble BMW's. I've driven the 6, almost purchased one in fact. The TSX handles every bit as well as the standard 6, with a superior interior and better fit and finish, IMO.
 
Nobody is dissing Mazdas, I was just replying to aviboys post. The MS 3 looks like a great car in particular. I've always enjoyed Mazdas, if only because the company has always been willing to think outside the box.
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Re: Acura TSX vs. Mazda6 s Grand Touring [aviboy97] by audia8q
Dec 01, 2006 (1:49 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Nov 29, 2006 1:28 pm)

avi....Service is a comparison that folks forget. Since we have Acura and Mazda dealerships let me share.. The entire Acura line is good quality stuff but no bargain to maintain and/or fix. I just pulled the year to date service numbers for our Acura and Mazda stores. The avg. repair order YTD at the Acura store is $980. (highest out of 5 franchises) The mazda dealership is $280.
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Re: Acura TSX vs. Mazda6 s Grand Touring [audia8q] by fedlawman
Dec 01, 2006 (2:13 pm)
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Replying to: audia8q (Dec 01, 2006 1:49 pm)

Safeway is cheaper than Albertson's.
 
I went shopping at Safeway in August and the grocery bill was $42. When I went to Albertson's in November, I spent $215.
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Re: Acura TSX vs. Mazda6 s Grand Touring [fedlawman] by audia8q
Dec 01, 2006 (2:33 pm)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Dec 01, 2006 2:13 pm)

Safeway is cheaper than Albertson's.
 

 
and your point is? How does the extra expense at Albertsons relate to the Mazda6 vs Acura debate?
 
Seems to me that service costs provide a good comparison of two cars. Its also the part that most consumers foolishly don't compare or even think about. I have seen dozens of people buy cars they can barely afford only to find out that service / maintance costs are way above their budget...
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Re: Acura TSX vs. Mazda6 s Grand Touring [audia8q] by fedlawman
Dec 01, 2006 (3:15 pm)
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Replying to: audia8q (Dec 01, 2006 2:33 pm)

My point is - you don't know what kinds or quantities of food I bought at each store, do you? Maybe I bought some twinkies and lunch meat at Safeway and Thanksgiving dinner for 20 at Albertson's.
 
How are we supposed to know which one costs more if you don't tell us what was included in the services?
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Re: Acura TSX vs. Mazda6 s Grand Touring [fedlawman] by aviboy97
Dec 02, 2006 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Nov 30, 2006 3:24 pm)

I'm 27. I have 20/15 uncorrected as well. However, acute red-green deficiency, so, no airlines for me, but yet, red lights in cars is easy for me to see. I don't understand how.
 
Anywho, I am partners in a 1982 Piper Warrior II PA-28-161.
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Re: Acura TSX vs. Mazda6 s Grand Touring [johnny420] by aviboy97
Dec 02, 2006 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: johnny420 (Nov 30, 2006 5:37 pm)

Mazdas resemble BMW's? Sorry, not seeing it. Handling, OK, at least for the RX-8 and Miata
 
Look at the Mazda3 and BMW 3 series. There are close similarities.
 
Yes, the RX-8 is no doubt a sports car. Not splitting hairs with you.
 
I think you can throw in the MS6 in the handling group as well. It handles just as well as a 3 Series with X drive.
 
For a few years now, Mazda has been referred to as the Japanese BMW. This not referring to lux features, or price though.
 
Appearance is subjective. I think there are some design similarities in some of their vehicles (not all), as do many. I hear customers say it on a daily.
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Re: Acura TSX vs. Mazda6 s Grand Touring [audia8q] by aviboy97
Dec 02, 2006 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: audia8q (Dec 01, 2006 1:49 pm)

Interesting....I was unaware Acura's was that much more then Honda's to service. It is something that is often over looked. Acura's are a great car, in and out, no question.
 
Audi is almost a G every time you bring one in as well.
 
I guess if you can afford the car, you can afford the maintenance.
 
My Mazda6 costs almost nothing to service. Besides the fact that I get my dealer discount, however, if I paid full price, it would still be no strain. Oil changes/ tire rotations.. not much more then that.
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Re: Acura TSX vs. Mazda6 s Grand Touring [fedlawman] by audia8q
Dec 02, 2006 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Dec 01, 2006 3:15 pm)

I may not know what kind of food you purcahsed but cars have rather similar maintance requirements...unless the car is some exotic car they all get 30K, 60K, 90K, etc.. services that are similar. According to surveys Acura is a superior quality product to Mazda...so why are the service bills so much higher for similar work??

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