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113 messages, Last post on Oct 16, 2009 at 9:08 PM
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I don't want to drive a CASKET!! That is what all Jeep interiors look like, CASKETS! At least people in caskets don't get to complain! What is with all car manufacturers? Do they think we are all Sheep? (yes) Look at the interior of the new Liberty. You get two (2) color choices GRAY and BEIGE! WOW! What a choice. How bland can you get. I like the new Liberty but told my Jeep dealer I would not buy any new Jeep or any other car until I got some color in it! Look at Toyota, heck you can only get VERY BLAND colors there. I use to get any (and I mean any) color I wanted in the interior or exterior of the Cads. I bought. I could get red, yellow, blue, green, white, orange, black, light blue, etc. That is both the Exterior and Interior. No more today. Again, the new cars have nothing but CASKET interiors all the way. I'm not dead yet and I'll not let the auto manufactures think I am dead or a Sheep! At least my 1991 Cherokee has a Maroon interior and I'm going to drive it until Jeep starts putting out some real colors in their interiors! CK |
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I don't know what it is about Leasing a Jeep but they really seem to be able to negotiate on price. Beware of BayRide Jeep. They pulled my credit and then told me they could do a deal over the phone. Then after I got there they told me the quote was mistakenly done on a Sport model instead of a Limited even though I had what they faxed me in writing. Wasted my saturday morning. -They told me the deal quoted was impossible on a limited. I then told them where I got it from and they guaranteed I would not get the deal. I then went to the other dealership and the dealer that I was working with tried to play it off that the deal he offered me last time was also for a sport "if he remembered correctly" I am almost certain one dealership called the other and gave them a heads up. Anyway I didnt fall for it and after I was about to walk out they gave me the deal on a limited. It just seemed like a really dirty trick to try and ruin my deal at the other dealership. |
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Replying to: loveabiggibson (Nov 08, 2007 12:47 pm) I don't think you can ever push 30mpg in a true 4wd SUV. Perhaps smaller ones like 4cyl Rav4s or CRVs might get close to that on the highway, but they are really FWD with just on demand 4WD and of course still limited interior space with no towing capabilities. The Highlander Hybrid can get high mpg with a $8000 premium cost and extremely long wait times to buy. I am disappointed we are not doing more to get higher mpg mid sized SUVs as well, Jeeps and other could all do better. |
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I had an '02 Liberty and traded it after only 18 months because it slid all over the place. I liked its looks, form, function, engine, etc., but when it rained or even encountered a large puddle, I was constantly sliding, especially when applying the brakes (and not necessarily a hard brake). After having a sedan for a few years, I am ready to get back into a small-ish SUV, and my priorities are V-6 (for performance) and a factory-nav system (so I can retain the steering-wheel audio controls for the stereo). Of course, looks and reliability are factors....For those reasons, I approach getting an American-made car with some trepidation. I test-drove a loaded '08 Liberty and was impressed with its looks, technology, performance, etc. It has everything I want in it and more.....but I must admit to being nervous about the manufacturer's future and the vehicle's long-term reliability. I know this vehicle is different from my '02 since the wheel base is completely different, so I figured it would be a different vehicle altogether (which it does seem to be). I would consider the Honda (due to good personal experience with them) but it is only a 4 cylinder so that takes it out of the running. I don't want an SUV with the spare tire on the tail gate (it just gets too cumbersome), so that rules out many models. I am also interested in the Saturn VUE and perhaps the Mazda CX-7 since they can be similarly equipped. The CX-7 gets excepted from the 4 cyl. rule due to its turbo charge and people who buy them seem to be pretty positive about the performance. I do have an extra $1000 potential incentive if I trade my '05 Dakota (the lease is up next August), or get rid of my '05 Camry, the most boring car I have ever owned in my life. The Dakota has 33K miles on it and has not given us any problems. The Camry has 45K miles and while it has been fairly reliable, the "check engine" light has come on and off randomly since the day we drove it off the showroom floor. There is nothing wrong with the engine (we've had it to the dealer a couple of times), but heaven help us if/when a problem really occurs because the warning light is useless. The car lacks a light in the trunk, on the vanity mirrors; things I considered basic (how silly of me). The security system is psycho--if the doors are locked and you close the trunk, the alarm goes off....very annoying. After having a loaded Accord EX-L w/nav (which I had to give up, a long story), this car doesn't even come close to the Honda's quality, ride, finish, etc. But, of course, it didn't cost as much, either. So, I digress.....anyone out there with an '08 Liberty who can offer an opinion, pro or con? I would probably lease it for 33-39 mos, if that impacts your opinion. Liberty? CX-7? Vue? Opinions wanted and valued! ChiGirl
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I am considering the new Liberty (because it looks like the old Cherokee that ran forever and that Jeep should never have cut) and I have some questions for the Jeep afficianados out there: 1. Is Jeep expected to put a diesel in this Liberty? 2. How easy/expensive is it to get a rear swing-gate installed for the spare? 3. Are dealers moving much on price right now? 4. What is the availability of manuals like? It seems like I would need to special order since not a lot of dealers have them. |
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Replying to: chigirlintexas (Nov 20, 2007 10:14 pm) I now have the new '08 Liberty and enjoy it very much- I love it. It's fun- and well- I'm debating swapping out my tires before winter, but so far (and yes I have that feat that I will slide) I haven't slid. I was recently in a huge storm and put it in 4WD-- but that was after driving it for a while in conditions that I wouldn't have driven my other Jeep in w/o the upgraded tires. Believe me- it's in the tires. Huge difference- but depends on what your lifestyle is too. I trailer a sailboat- and need the traction for the muck at some launch ramps- and I love to play in the dirt/on rocks. My husband and I went off roading- I took the Liberty and he the Rubicon- I hung with all the Rubicons the entire time- the Liberty is excellent and you should explore more of its capabilities. A lot of fun! Good luck. D.K. |
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Replying to: sailingmystic (Nov 21, 2007 5:49 pm) Thanks for sharing your Liberty experiences....it's nice to know the sliding problem wasn't just me. I should have done more research on the tires before getting rid of my '02, but my hubby was adamant about it so I didn't fight him. I simply cannot find anything else that excites me as much as this new '08 Liberty-- it reminds me of how I felt when I got my '02--it's great looking, I love the features, and I can probably get a good deal. I also have always liked the "comraderie" I see among Jeep owners. Right now, my research and requirements narrows my choices down to the Liberty, the CX-7 (which requires premium and does not offer bluetooth or mp3 connectivity) and the Saturn Vue V6, which I just cannot get excited about. The Liberty I drove was a limited version, all decked-out, and gorgeous in black with chrome wheels--very sexy! The features and technology just knocked my socks off. We are going on Friday to see if we can make a deal....I'm about to post a question for Carman to see if he can help me be prepared for the lease financing stuff.... Thanks again, Happy Thanksgiving! I'll let you know how it goes! ChiGirl
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| Still loving mine, got 1600 miles racked up so far. it needs a bath really bad. I still have that litle buzzing noise when i shift into drive from park, but i will ask them when I take it in for service. it has also got a little squeek in the right side of the dask, i think its the glove box, only when you have a good jolt of a bump. but so far it has run flawlessly, and still loving it.. | |
| has anyone in their new liberty noticed when you turn your key to start it , it is delayed sometimes, and sometimes its works normal, i had an envoy, and it did the same thing sometime, is it normal? | |
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Replying to: chigirlintexas (Nov 21, 2007 7:25 pm) I don't hesitate when I take it off road. I would be with a Lexus (don't want to scratch) or a Saturn (could it meet the challenge), etc. With the Jeep I don't hesitate in any conditions. I know how to use the controls now (and there are many to choose from) and so I 'dive right in'...and it does so well (it's heavy and it's narrow which works well on the trails). My husband cracks up because he's the one who gets the new cars and details them constantly-- now I find I'm doing the same thing. I have the Brick Red color/Limited Edition with leather seats...very pleased. I sometimes open the garage door just to look at it-- that's how excited I am about it. It's fun. I hope you found something out there that you can enjoy just as much. Best, D.K.
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