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Subaru Forester, Engine, Wagon
#331 of 439 Re: Did I miss anything? [aatherton]
Feb 13, 2010 (6:12 pm)
"It takes years and tens of thousands of miles. It mainly affected Foresters before 2004. It is caused by the open deck design of the cylinder blocks, which stresses the gasket. That basic design has not changed, but Subaru has improved the gaskets and required a sealant to be part of the coolant."
If your car is under warranty would the dealership check for that each time you took it in for the regular 15,000 mile inspection?
"It was a limited run of VIN numbers. It often took thousand of miles to happen. The cars that were sold have mostly all been fixed by engine replacement, as very few cases are still turning up. The engines were not actually falling apart. It was disintegration of copper connecting rod bearing shells:"
Ah, yes. Sorry, I exaggerated a bit there. I just wasn't aware of what really happened when that occurred.
#332 of 439 Re: Did I miss anything? [imaginary]
Feb 15, 2010 (6:08 am)
"If your car is under warranty would the dealership check for that each time you took it in for the regular 15,000 mile inspection?"
Most dealer service departments are always on the lookout for head gasket leaks, whether the car is under warranty or not. But an knowledgeable owner can spot the problem without waiting for the inspections.
Subaru has been good about partial reimbursement for head gasket replacement after the 5 years or 60,000 miles power train warranty is up. Especially if the car has been regularly maintained by a dealer with the proper coolant and sealant additive used and changed at the right intervals.
#333 of 439 Re: Did I miss anything? [imaginary]
Feb 17, 2010 (10:27 am)
If you're cruising along at highway speeds, any engine will probably be at low rpm. My Sienna cruises at less than 2000 rpm at 55mph.
So when I hit the gas, the hesitation is for the trans to downshift. It has to because the engine isn't making much power at 1900rpm.
The Forester is geared shorter, so RPMs won't be so low, but it may go down one gear as well. The trans in our Forester is much quicker and more responsive than in our Toyota.
We don't own a turbo, but I have test driven one, and I felt like overall it was more responsive than the Sienna, simply because it picked the right gear a lot sooner.
#334 of 439 2003 Forester Bites the Dust
Feb 17, 2010 (5:42 pm)
My Forester has 92,000 miles and has been regularly maintained with Mobil 1 fully synthetic oil. When it died on the highway, I had it towed to my mechanic's shop. Now bear with me because this is greek to me: he can't get compression. He is afraid it is going to need a new engine $5000. Tomorrow he is going to obtain some sort of instrument to allow him to look inside without pulling everything out as there is some possibility it could be the valves. He thinks a car requiring a new engine 92,000 is "just horrible." I am thinking that I will not have it repaired if that's the case. Trade-in value at good condition is only 5600. So does anyone have any advice for me? Assuming it needs a new engine, can I get anything for the vehicle when trading in? Or what could I expect for scrap? Wow, I remember driving it home for the first time, thinking I was going to enjoy it for years to come. My last vehicle, a Toyota, was still going strong when I traded it in after 15 years. My vehicle is driven back and forth to work. Never been off-road. Always treated carefully.
#335 of 439 Re: 2003 Forester Bites the Dust [masan]
Feb 18, 2010 (10:36 am)
Let's see what the verdict is, but my guess is the head gaskets failed. Hopefully he can replace those, both sides would run about ~$1200 or so.
#336 of 439 Re: 2003 Forester Bites the Dust [ateixeira]
Feb 18, 2010 (3:42 pm)
Wow, that much?
#337 of 439 Re: 2003 Forester Bites the Dust [imaginary]
Feb 18, 2010 (3:55 pm)
If you need both sides done. Consider that a maximum.
#338 of 439 Re: 2003 Forester Bites the Dust [ateixeira]
Feb 18, 2010 (5:57 pm)
Ah, I was going to say "isn't that a bit much for each head gasket?"
#339 of 439 Re: 2003 Forester Bites the Dust [ateixeira]
Feb 19, 2010 (5:11 pm)
The mechanic said that a head gasket failure is not one of the scenarios. I am going to have to pay for him to open it up and look inside. Best case scenario seems to be valves. There is no compression in cylinder 1. The owner of the shop told me today that this should not happen in a well-maintained vehicle such as mine at 92,000. This vehicle was meant to last longer. He also informed me that he had contacted Subaru and Subaru was not willing to help with repairs. This will be my last Subaru. It was nice while it lasted. I am sorry I chose it over a RAV-4 or CR-V.
#340 of 439 Re: 2003 Forester Bites the Dust [masan]
Feb 21, 2010 (4:56 am)
RAV4? At least the Forester lets you choose when to accelerate.