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#34 of 439 Re: Engine oil capacity [erikwi]
Jun 16, 2006 (9:16 am)
On another Subaru forum (search "scooby mods"), they posted this clarification of the owner's manual directly from SOA:
Thank you for taking the time to contact us. We do apologize for this inconvenience. We appreciate that you brought this to our attention. The correct capacity for the engine oil for the 2004 Forester XT is 5 quarts when replacing the engine oil and filter.
The 4.2 quart capacity noted in your owner's manual is for the 2004 Forester non-turbo models when just filling up the engine oil and not replacing the filter. The capacity of the non-turbo models when replacing the filter is 4.8 quarts.
We have advised our Publications Department that this information needs to be added to future Forester owner's manuals.
Thanks for the opportunity to be of assistance. If you need any future assistance, please feel free to contact us.
John J. Mergen
Subaru of America, Inc.
While this specifies 2004, note that this letter is from August '03. I'm assuming this information is true for the '05 and '06 MYs as well.
#35 of 439 Re: Engine oil capacity [dstew1]
Jun 16, 2006 (1:28 pm)
I thought so! I guess someone didn't get the message in the publications department. Also, book recommends 5w-30. In my area, temps regularly see 90+ in the summer. I switched to Syntec 5W30 at 2500 miles. Would Syntec 5W50 be a better choice? It would cover the entire temperature range of my climate.
#36 of 439 Re: Engine oil capacity [erikwi]
Jun 18, 2006 (4:54 am)
I always stick to what the manufacturer recommends.
#37 of 439 Re: Engine oil capacity [raybear]
Jun 18, 2006 (10:54 am)
Well, the book is confusing. In the maintenance section, it says 5W30 is recommended but in the same paragraph, it says to use the proper weight for your local climate. I think I'm just going to use Syntec 5W30 and be done with it. Synthetics handle heat and cold better than dino juice anyway.
#38 of 439 Re: Engine oil capacity [dstew1]
Jun 20, 2006 (9:43 am)
Join us OCD Clubbers - just fill the oil filter before you install the new one. That pre-soaks the filter element.
And yes, you end up using almost all of 5 quarts.
#39 of 439 Re: Engine oil capacity [ateixeira]
Jun 20, 2006 (3:38 pm)
I must already be a member I've always prefilled my filters whenever possible. When I was going to school for my automotive technician degree, the instructor told us it was always a good idea to prefill when you could.
I did that to mine and put it 4.25 quarts. 1000 miles later it showed up about a half quart low. Juice, are you saying that even with prefilling the filter, it still takes 5 quarts?
#40 of 439 Re: Engine oil capacity [erikwi]
Jun 21, 2006 (5:40 am)
I'm including the oil used to fill the filter in my 5 total quarts.
#41 of 439 Re: Engine oil capacity [ateixeira]
Jun 21, 2006 (8:31 am)
Ahh, I understand now. Thanks for the info!!
Jun 18, 2006 (6:37 pm)
I think it would be almost impossible to burn a quart in 500 miles unless there were serious ring problems, in which case you would see blue smoke in the exhaust, OR a seal leak. I had several seal leaks in my '98 and the seals were replaced under warranty. You should check for leaks where you park and for odors where the oil may hit an exhaust pipe - the latter is how I detected mine. My '98, uses almost no oil at 125,000 miles.
#43 of 439 Re: Oil Loss [rochcom]
Jun 20, 2006 (11:18 am)
Thanks. I know it seems unbelievable, but it is true. I've had the cam seals replaced twice. There are no leaks when the car is sitting, but there are exhaust like odors when I am idling and black/blue exhaust when you rev the engine up to 5 rpm. Was it your valve guide seals? It sounds like it is my rings. Honestly, I've been patient with Subaru for over a year while they misdiagnose. The oil consumption began in earnest at 61,000 miles and Subaru continually dismissed me as the problem got continually worse. I'm open to suggestions because an engine overhaul at 75,000 miles seems a little absurd.