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#124 of 439 Re: 2002 engine will not run smoothly after complete tune-up. [gediehl4]
Aug 22, 2007 (12:20 pm)
Yesterday I contacted 1800Subaru3 and they dispatched a field manager representative today. They pulled the manifolds off and found an internal head gasket leak where the coolant is leaking into the cylinders and causing the plugs to misfire. So they say-and that is what was reported
back to 1800Subaru by the field manager.
Note we did have some roughness before any work began and could have been
the start of the internal gasket leaks?????????
Both the dealer and 1800Sub indicate the car needs the head gaskets repaired
and of course on our nickel.
I did call the local Honda dealer-owned by the same company- and talked to the manager about trading our Forester, as is, on a new Civic or Accord and he is ready to deal. He drove over to the Subaru dealer and looked at our
Forester. He also recommended that we not open up the motor to repair the head gasket because his experience is that there will be extensive damage and much more than the initial quoted $800 repair. He wants us to visit the
Honda dealership, chose a car and then work a deal.
I have a .50 caliber Desert Eagle and I am tempted to go euthanize the damn
#125 of 439 Re: 2002 engine will not run smoothly after complete tune-up. [gediehl4]
Aug 22, 2007 (3:15 pm)
Mmmm.... head gaskets. $800 sounds pretty cheap, especially if that is for both gaskets. You might try to wrangle with Subaru a bit on this one, since it is a well known and well documented issue with these engines. Typical cost for both gaskets tends to run more toward $1800-2200, so I have to wonder if that is a reduced cost already.
Anyway, if you have had no overheating issues, there might not be more of a problem with it.
Of course a dealer is going to encourage you to go with a new car, so anything other than an affirmation of your inclination to replace with new from the dealer would be a surprise to me. If you are ready to dump it though, your peace of mind is worth a heck of a lot more than a new round of car payments.
#126 of 439 Re: 2002 engine will not run smoothly after complete tune-up. [xwesx]
Aug 24, 2007 (5:35 pm)
I would have my lawyer write a letter and threaten to sue. The car was fine when you brought it in... Subaru isn't responsible, but the dealer is however.
#127 of 439 Re: 2002 engine will not run smoothly after complete tune-up. [paisan]
Aug 27, 2007 (11:31 am)
What did the dealer do to make the gaskets fail, though?
02s are borderline. Some early ones were still affected, later models were OK.
I agree that they probably already reduced the cost substantially, though.
#128 of 439 2004 FXT Clicking/grinding sound when lower gears shift on acceleration?
Aug 29, 2007 (6:30 am)
I have 44k miles on my FXT and I notice a distinct CLICK when the auto transmission upshifts in the lower gears...
Its like vroooooom...autoshift(CRICK) vroooooom...
Can anyone give me some ideas? Thanks!
#129 of 439 Re: 2002 engine will not run smoothly after complete tune-up. [ateixeira]
Aug 31, 2007 (12:21 pm)
We caved in and traded the Forester for a new 2007 Honda Accord EX-L.
Our Forester was an early 2002-but Subaru and dealer both said it was not one of the identified problem motors.
I told the Subaru Service Manager that I will never ever own another Subaru. Subaru clearly knows there is a design flaw, that is why they put the chemical additive in the coolant at 48,000 miles-which plugged the leak areas until it was out of warranty and then told he was a high mileage car. Pure BS!
Thanks to everyone who offered assitance with comments and suggestions! We really appreciate your help.
#130 of 439 Re: head gasket [ateixeira]
Oct 05, 2007 (10:05 am)
just about to buy a 99 forester. have done all due diligence i can imagine including carfax; calling subaru to track that all SB's have been fulfilled... now just got to get over the fears driven by the immense amount of stuff i'm reading about head gaskets on this car. the current owner has done the coolant conditioner... but how long does that last? anybody know if that is a permanent fix? Subaru said that they cover head gaskets in the normal warrantee up to 60k miles but after the coolant conditioner fix is done, they will cover this year until 100k miles... anyone with any experience "post" conditioner? with this year car? it currently only has 64k miles and I'm hoping for years more... thanks, kona4
#131 of 439 Re: head gasket [kona4]
Oct 10, 2007 (7:29 am)
I had a 98 and it was perfect, even without the conditioner.
We needed more space, so we got a minivan, but we plan to trade our Legacy on an 09 Forester when those come out.
You're covered for, what, another 36k miles? That's as long as some new car warranties.
#132 of 439 white fluid leak
Oct 20, 2007 (9:50 am)
I don't know that this is actually an engine problem but I figured I'd start here.
My wife has an '03 Forester XS. It's got just over 40k miles on it and the only thing it's needed so far besides regular service was a new oxygen sensor a few months ago.
Today I noticed some spots in the driveway where she parks, small pools of an off-whiteish liquid. There are a few of them and they're maybe 2" across. In a left/right sense, they appear to be coming from the middle of the car. In a front/back sense, I can't tell because she doesn't always park in exactly the same spot.
When she gets home, I'll check the fluid levels. What are the likely possibilities here, and with each one, what's the urgency? (I'm not trying to blow it off, I just like to know whether it's a case of "must get to mechanic immediately and drive no further" or "it's ok to wait a few days until the dealer can take you.")
Thanks for any info.
#133 of 439 Re: white fluid leak [cabriggs]
Oct 20, 2007 (8:13 pm)
White liquid? Personally I'd stick a sheet of cardboard to see exactly where it's coming from.