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Subaru Forester Engine problems

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Re: 2006 Forester HG leak? [xwesx] by erikwi
Dec 01, 2009 (2:48 pm)
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Replying to: xwesx (Dec 01, 2009 10:55 am)

She's taking it in Thursday to the selling and servicing dealer for them to look at. They don't even have to put it on the lift to find it, just reach down and touch the corner of the head on the firewall side and they'll get oil on their finger.
 
By the way, this particular dealer (not mentioning names) did the 30k a while back. They used a trans flushing machine on it and ran 16 quarts of Valvoline Maxlife ATF through it. I called Valvoline and was told Maxlife exceeds Subaru Type J specs. What do you folks think?
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Re: 2006 Forester HG leak? [erikwi] by xwesx
Dec 01, 2009 (5:16 pm)
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Replying to: erikwi (Dec 01, 2009 2:48 pm)

That fluid does meet J specs (listed as Nissan type J - Subaru's 4-speed transmissions are manufactured by JATCo). I am not sure of quality, etc., on it aside from that, though.
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Re: 2006 Forester HG leak? [xwesx] by erikwi
Dec 01, 2009 (5:25 pm)
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Replying to: xwesx (Dec 01, 2009 5:16 pm)

Sounds good to me! What about using a flushing machine? My closest servicing dealer said SOA advises against using a flusher but my mom's servicing dealer says they've never been told not to use this machine on a Subaru AT. Thoughts?
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Re: 2006 Forester HG leak? [erikwi] by xwesx
Dec 01, 2009 (7:09 pm)
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Replying to: erikwi (Dec 01, 2009 5:25 pm)

Well, everyone has their own opinion on them.
 
I would think that any time you are putting in a different transmission fluid, you should flush out the old fluid in order to have substantially, if not completely, new fluid in the unit. Were you using the same fluid, a flush would not be "necessary" unless the used fluid was burnt. I put 220,000 miles on my '96 Outback and never flushed the transmission, though I did change out the vast majority of it at about 144,000 miles when I pulled the engine the first time due to draining the torque converter (accidentally). I never had any problems with that transmission at all - it was absolutely perfect. I drained/filled twice while I owned it, but no flushes.
 
My own thought is that, depending on how the "flush" is done, damage is possible but not likely. If the flush is performed with the vehicle running and in gear, using the flow of the fluid through the system to pump out old fluid and replenish with new, it is not going to be damaged. As for how these machines do it, I do not know....
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Re: 2006 Forester HG leak? [xwesx] by erikwi
Dec 02, 2009 (3:02 am)
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Replying to: xwesx (Dec 01, 2009 7:09 pm)

I'm not against flushing with a machine. One of my employees had it done on his delivery car when the tranny started hanging in gear and it solved his shifting problems completely. The machines pump new fluid in reverse flow and collect the old fluid and dirt. It has risks, especially on high mileage gearboxes or if the operator sets the pressure too high. I was curious to know since the dealer I use now told me it wasn't recommended. Personally, I'm going to stick with whatever Subaru recommends. This is my first auto box so I'm just not sure how to maintain it aside from doing a drain/fill every 30k. I am going to have the spin on filter replaced during the 60k though. I don't see how that filter can be "lifetime" because I've seen the metallic sludge created by an auto box. Never hurts to be a little obsessive compulsive.......
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Re: 2006 Forester HG leak? [erikwi] by xwesx
Dec 02, 2009 (10:14 am)
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Replying to: erikwi (Dec 02, 2009 3:02 am)

That's true, and sounds like a good bet.
 
I agree with you on the flushing..... do it when it is necessary.
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Re: 2006 Forester HG leak? [xwesx] by erikwi
Dec 02, 2009 (4:02 pm)
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Replying to: xwesx (Dec 02, 2009 10:14 am)

Mom has an appointment Thursday afternoon at 3pm EST for them to check her car. I talked to the service manager at this dealer and sent him the pictures, the same ones I linked to here. His exact words were "Judging by pictures, the warranty isn't going to cover that. That's just a smudge! You have to have actual fluid loss before we can fix that." I'll post again when I have their decision.
 
Funny, the dealer I now go to is the one that spotted mine in the first place and mine looked nearly identical to her car. I have a feeling they're going to balk at covering but I will reserve judgement until I hear from them.
 
Any of you folks with an 06 check yours? By the way, the date of manufacture on my car is December 2005.
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Re: 2006 Forester HG leak? [erikwi] by erikwi
Dec 03, 2009 (4:09 pm)
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Replying to: erikwi (Dec 02, 2009 4:02 pm)

Mom called a little while ago with the results from the dealer. The passenger side HG leak has been confirmed by the dealer and photos taken by the service manager for the factory rep. They're going to push to have BOTH head gaskets replaced under warranty in case the other side springs a leak. The dealer is having to order the parts because they don't stock them normally and will be doing the work next week. Maybe now that another 2006 has been found with a HG leak SOA will sit up and notice and dig for a cause. Don't have a date of manufacture on her car but will post when I get the info.
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Re: 2006 Forester HG leak? [erikwi] by ateixeira
Dec 03, 2009 (5:48 pm)
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Replying to: erikwi (Dec 03, 2009 4:09 pm)

There's always more than meets the eye. Glad to hear they're taking care of her.
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Re: 2006 Forester HG leak? [ateixeira] by erikwi
Dec 03, 2009 (7:05 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 03, 2009 5:48 pm)

You and me both!

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