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Porsche 911 Lease Questions

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What is this discussion about? Porsche 911, Car Leasing, Car Buying, Coupe, Convertible


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Re: 2007 Targa 4S [Car_man] by john_galt
Jan 23, 2007 (9:40 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jan 23, 2007 9:05 am)

I'll lease at 12k miles/year and either 36 or 48 months.
 
I've also heard that US Bank is typically lower money factor and lower residual than Porsche, thereby making the payment roughly the same.
 
Is that true, and if so, other than if one wants to purchase at the end of the lease, how does one decide which is better?
 
Thanks
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Re: 2007 turbo tiptronic lease [Car_man] by turboguy
Jan 26, 2007 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jan 23, 2007 9:38 am)

thanks car_man. i'll check.
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Re: 2007 Targa 4S [john_galt] by bwedotnet
Feb 01, 2007 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: john_galt (Jan 23, 2007 9:40 am)

John:
 
Given the same payment for two leases I would go with the lease that has the low residual and low MF.
 
This leaves you in a better position at the end of the lease if you decide to sell the car or keep it.
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Re: 2007 turbo tiptronic lease [turboguy] by bwedotnet
Feb 01, 2007 (7:01 pm)
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Replying to: turboguy (Jan 21, 2007 3:39 pm)

Turboguy:
 
Do not put down 'a decent cap reduction'. With a lease it is best to put as little money down as possible. If you put down a big cap reduction and the vehicle is totaled you do not get that money back.
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Re: 2007 Targa 4S [john_galt] by Car_man HOST
Feb 15, 2007 (2:30 am)
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Replying to: john_galt (Jan 23, 2007 9:40 am)

Hey John. Porsche Credit's residual values for leases with 12,000 miles per year are 2% higher than its 15,000 mile per year residual values. If you were to lease a 2007 Porsche 911 C4 S Coupe with a manual transmission through Porsche Credit right now for 48 months with 12,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00320 and 52%, respectively.
 
I am not personally all that familiar with U.S. Bank's lease program for Porsches, but it wouldn't shock me if it was about the same as Porsche Credit's given the lack of support on Porsche leases. If U.S. Banks' money factors and residual values are lower yet its lease payments are about the same then theoretically you would be better off leasing through it than through Porsche Credit because the lower residual value would make your car's lease-end purchase price lower.
 
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Re: 2007 turbo tiptronic lease [turboguy] by Car_man HOST
Feb 15, 2007 (2:30 am)
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Replying to: turboguy (Jan 26, 2007 7:28 am)

No problem turboguy.
 
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Re: 2007 Targa 4S [Car_man] by vwguild1
Feb 15, 2007 (10:42 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Feb 15, 2007 2:30 am)

We tend to use US Bank more frequerntly because their Money Factor is always so much lower than PFS, although PFS has, as would be expected, significantly higher residuals...
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2007C2Cab by outdrguy
Feb 17, 2007 (9:02 am)
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I would welcome thoughts on this deal:
2007 C2 Cab manual
$85250 purchase price/$93000 MSRP
39mo lease
15K miles
52000 residual (61%)
0.00259 MF (not thru Porsche)
 
lease $1268/mo (not including tax)
Thanks much.
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Car Man - What do you think? by sje3333
Feb 19, 2007 (8:21 pm)
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Car Man,
 
Can you give me your input with regard to the following deal I worked out at a dealership in Connecticut:
  
Car - 997 Carrera S (Car is in inventory)
Invoice including destination - $89,205
Quoted price by dealer - $83,405
  
Lease term - 36 months
Residual - 59% or $52,631
Annual mileage - 10,000
  
Upfront fees:
  
Acquisition Fee - $745
Registration - $155
Documentation - $239
Disposition Fee - $350
  
Base payment excluding taxes - $1310.55
  
He didn't give me the money factor but is quoting the rate between 6 and 7 percent.
  
Are any of the upfront fees negotiable?
  
Do you think I am getting a reasonable discount (6.7%)?
  
What is your personal opinion if you had to decide between the Carrera S and the Targa 4?
  
Thanks,
  
Steve
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Car man – Is there a better deal? by caboman1
Feb 21, 2007 (9:46 am)
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Car Man,
 
I'd appreciate your opinion on this lease through Porsche Credit.
 
Carrera S Cab MSRP $121,290
 
Cap Cost $116,938 ( This includes $6000 needed to pay off my trade, so the negotiated cap cost was actually $109,938)
 
Residual $49,456
 
Due at signing
 
Cap Cost Reduction $26,578.98 (I want to do this to reduce my payments so I can lease the car through a business, and I plan on buying the car after the lease is over)
 
1st mo pmt $1216.64
Tire fee $8.75
Registration $781
Sales and Use Tax 2059.87
 
60 mos 12K per year
 
Pmt including tax $1216.64
 
Thanks,
 
Caboman1

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