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Porsche 911 Lease Questions

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What is this discussion about? Porsche 911, Car Leasing, Car Buying, Coupe, Convertible


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Re: 911 Carrera Coupe lease payments [Car_man] by gblind8
Nov 22, 2006 (12:09 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Nov 19, 2006 6:20 am)

Car_man, here are the details of the deal:
 
$71,281.38 Selling Price
 
US Bank Finance Company
0.00202 Money Factor
$41,440.00 Residual
$74,000 MSRP
15k mi/year
36 mos
$1,163/month, tax (7.25%) already included
 
Thanks!
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Current residuals - C4/C4VRT/C4S by jhl1963
Nov 24, 2006 (11:27 pm)
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Carman, residuals please on: C4/C4s/C4Vert (12k miles, 36 months) Thanks!
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911 Carrera Cab lease by jmatson266
Dec 10, 2006 (10:16 pm)
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Local dealer is offering the following lease: MSRP $93,000 Discount of 3,000 so cap cost is 90,000 with 0 down, money factor .00380, residual 55%, 12,000 miles for 48 months. Lease payments including tax is $1475. It seems a bit high to me but I don't know if they will come down any more. What do you think? Thanks
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Re: 911 Carrera Cab lease [jmatson266] by bwedotnet
Dec 11, 2006 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: jmatson266 (Dec 10, 2006 10:16 pm)

Hi:
 
With $0 drive off, this sounds about right. I would need to know the drive off fees that are being rolled into the payment and your tax rate to confirm.
 
If you paid the drive off fees I estimate payments would be approx $100/mo lower. Using your MSRP, cap cost and MF:
 
The Edmunds lease calculator gives a payment of ~$1409 / mo incl tax (8%).
 
Leasecompare.com comes out to $1287/mo before tax.
 
I think you can get a better discount. $5500 off MSRP is more appropriate on this vehicle at this time. An extra $2500 off cap cost will save you approx $60/mo ($2880 over 48 months).
 
Take a good look at leasecompare.com. I like their plans because their residuals are much lower. All things being equal (i.e. payment) a lower residual with lower MF is better than a high residual and high MF.
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Re: Re: 911 Carrera Cab lease by jmatson266
Dec 11, 2006 (10:07 pm)
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Thanks so much for your input. My total initial payment would include $1410 in fees and $388 for "other upfnt" as well as the 1st lease payment. I had the dealer run a lease payment for US Bank as well, and it did have a lower MF and RV, but the monthly payment was just over $1500. I don't plan on buying the car at the end of the lease so do you still think it is better with the lower MF and RV? Also, to be complete, the Porsche lease payment of 1475 includes a base of 1365 and taxes of 110. Thanks again.
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Re: Re: 911 Carrera Cab lease [jmatson266] by bwedotnet
Dec 12, 2006 (6:02 pm)
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Replying to: jmatson266 (Dec 11, 2006 10:07 pm)

Hi:
 
If you are paying the fees and first month up front then $1365/mo (before tax) sounds higher than I would expect.
 
leasecompare.com quotes $1287/mo (before tax) for your MSRP and Cap Cost. Over 48 months the $80/mo difference will add up ($3840).
 
It might be worth getting an alternate quote. If nothing else it will make you feel better about the Porsche Financing numbers. Good luck. Let me know how it goes.
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Re: 911 Carrera Coupe lease payments [gblind8] by Car_man HOST
Dec 13, 2006 (5:31 am)
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Replying to: gblind8 (Nov 22, 2006 12:09 am)

No problem, gblind8. OK, so you're interested in a 2007 Porsche Carrera Coupe that has an MSRP of $74,000 and a selling price of $71,281. You're being given a $2,700 discount on this car. I know that Porsche dealers are heavily discounting leftover 2006 Cayman S and Cayenne models, but I am not personally all that familiar with what the market is like for the 2007 911 right now. Have you tried comparison shopping any? It might now be a bad idea to get another price quote or two on this car.
 
The U.S. Bank money factor that you were quoted for this car is much lower than Porsche Credit's current money factor for it. As long as its residual value is close to Porsche Credit's then you would be better off leasing through U.S. Bank.
 
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Re: Current residuals - C4/C4VRT/C4S [jhl1963] by Car_man HOST
Dec 14, 2006 (4:00 am)
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Replying to: jhl1963 (Nov 24, 2006 11:27 pm)

Here's the information that you're looking for, jhl1963. Porsche Credit's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2007 Porsche 911 C4 Coupe with 12,000 miles per year are .00310 and 62%, respectively. The numbers for the 2007 911 C4 Coupe S are .00310 and 60%. Lastly, the numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a 2007 911 C4 Convertible are .00310 and 61%. All of the aforementioned residual values are for cars with manual transmissions.
 
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Re: 911 Carrera Cab lease [jmatson266] by Car_man HOST
Dec 14, 2006 (4:03 am)
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Replying to: jmatson266 (Dec 10, 2006 10:16 pm)

Hello jmatson266. I'm not all that familiar with what the market is like for the 911 right now, so I can't comment on this car's selling price, but I can tell you that the money factor that you were quoted is too high. For consumers who qualify for its top credit tier, Porsche Credit's 48 month current buy rate lease money factor for all models is currently .00320. Make sure that the dealer uses this money factor to calculate your car's payment. The residual value that you were quoted look about right to me.
 
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2007 Targa 4S by john_galt
Dec 18, 2006 (11:18 pm)
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anyone know the current money factors & residuals for the new Targa 4S?

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