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Porsche 911 Lease Questions

231 messages,  Last post on Nov 24, 2009 at 8:58 AM

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What is this discussion about? Porsche 911, Car Leasing, Car Buying, Coupe, Convertible


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Re: Car Man Please Help [madmanmoo] by bosco42
Apr 14, 2009 (12:56 pm)
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Replying to: madmanmoo (Apr 14, 2009 7:30 am)

"You are getting an aggressive rate which is bought down."
 
What do you mean by this ? Dont quite understand what being bought down means...thanks
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Re: Car Man Please Help [bosco42] by madmanmoo
Apr 15, 2009 (9:49 am)
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Replying to: bosco42 (Apr 14, 2009 12:56 pm)

3.9% is a special rate which is bought down from the real market rate. Instead of using cash back directly, Porsche applies it to your rate.
 
For example, there is no such thing as free money (0%), the manufacturer is using incentive cash to buy down the rate to that level.
 
Make sense?
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Re: Car Man Please Help [madmanmoo] by bosco42
Apr 15, 2009 (10:34 am)
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Replying to: madmanmoo (Apr 15, 2009 9:49 am)

So if there is no cash incentive (cash back to dealer) and the dealer is selling it to me at invoice where is he making money ??.....getting it from holdback money ?
 
In previous posts here it was stated that there were cash incentives to the dealer...was this an incorrect statement. it is important to know so I know how to negotiate my deal....thanks
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Re: Car Man Please Help [bosco42] by madmanmoo
Apr 15, 2009 (12:01 pm)
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Replying to: bosco42 (Apr 15, 2009 10:34 am)

In previous posts here it was stated that there were cash incentives to the dealer...was this an incorrect statement.
 
No, there are cash incentives which only apply to cash purchases. Lease and finance incentives are in the form of a special rate.
 
I'm not sure why it matters how they are making their money. If you like the deal and they are willing to sell it to you for that amount, do business. Don't worry about where their profit is coming from.
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Re: Car Man Please Help [madmanmoo] by bosco42
Apr 15, 2009 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: madmanmoo (Apr 15, 2009 12:01 pm)

I am not worried about where their profit is coming from..just trying to understand the system which then allows me to understand how to negotiate better....thanks for all your explanations..I appreciate it your time
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Accuracy of posted residuals by bosco42
Apr 17, 2009 (2:44 am)
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Car Man......from the dealers I have spoken with the residual numbers differ from what you have posted.....are you sure yours are accurate ??
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Re: Accuracy of posted residuals [bosco42] by noahsdad
Apr 17, 2009 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: bosco42 (Apr 17, 2009 2:44 am)

i have checked with dealers...they seem to accurate. many dealers are trying to pad the .00146 buy rate, so beware
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residuals by bosco42
Apr 17, 2009 (9:16 am)
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Is there an official online source that quotes the residuals
 
I was told by 2 dealers that the residual was 55% on an 09 C2S coupe with 10K per year
 
"Hi glbmw. Dealers that have certificates available can offer the following terms. Porsche's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 911 C2 Coupe with 10,000 miles per year are .00146 and 58%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of an '09 911 C2 Coupe S are .00146 and 56%. The numbers for an '09 911 C4 Coupe are .00146 and 56%."
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Help with 2009 Carrera Coupe 15k mile/yr 3 yr lease by mghbolt
Apr 20, 2009 (8:34 pm)
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Hello Car Man:
 
Would greatly apprecieate advice on negotiating a lease on a basic '09 Carrera coupe manual (MSRP range 79,450-82,000). I live in California and the state tax is ~9.25%
 
1) It seems that from the forum that the best Money Factor is .00146 on a 3 year lease, does that hold true for 15K miles/year lease as well?
 
2) I've heard that this special low rease rate will run through the end of May'09 and it will change for June, either up or down
 
3) What is the residual percentage for a 3 year 15 K miles/year lease, and through the same source, I heard the residual percentage may go down for the worse after May, any truth in that
 
4) How much off MSRP can I realistically get in this economy, is 15% too much for an '09 Carrera Coupe basic model, or is 10% more realistic, one dealership gave 8% off MSRP without too much haggling
 
5) I won't need the car till later in the summer, but do you think its worth putting a deposit by the end of May (capitalize on the low money factor), and have the dealership let me pick up the car end of June which would be the start of the lease. Will a dealership let me do that and have the car sit on their lot for a month before triggerring the lease just with a deposit?
 
Greatly appreciate all your advice.
 
-MGHBolt
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Targa 4s by mk2001
Apr 22, 2009 (1:38 pm)
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Hi Car man,
 
I looking at a 2009 Targa 4s and appreciate your guidance on uterms to expect on this model. I understand you mentioned the current buy rate for leases on 911s is 0.00146. I assume this also applies to the Targa, but appreciate if you could confirm. Could you also advise what the residual percentages are on a 36 and 48 mos. lease for this car based on 10/12K miles? Need also your input on discounts to MSRP and other incentives to reasonably expect on this model. Thanks for all the help.
 
Regards,
 
MK-

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